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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:19:48 -0400
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On 10/13/24 8:53 AM, olcott wrote:
> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)
> 
> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to
> the premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of
> DDD and HHH. *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning*
> 
> *The key premises are simply*
> (a) the source code for DDD

WHich isn't the source code for the PROGRAM DDD

Try to run that program just by itself.

It won't work, you need to include HHH (and everything it calls) so that 
the "source code" for DDD needs to include the definition of all of that.

Sorry, you are just proving you don't understand what you are talking 
about.

> 
> void DDD()
> {
>    HHH(DDD);
>    return;
> }
> 
> (b) The design of HHH as a simulating termination analyzer.

Which gets the wrong answer.

> 
> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
> Click on the above link to directly talk to ChatGPT about HHH
> and DDD without logging in.
> 
> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must
> be wrong when it reports that DDD does not terminate because
> DDD does terminate it will explain your mistake to you.
> 

You have taught Chat GPT this error as shown in this statement:


The fact that DDD() halts in real execution is because HHH intervenes to 
prevent infinite recursion, not because DDD() halts on its own.


But DDD() DOES halt on its own, becuase the HHH that it calls will 
return to it. All you have done is show you are a good enough liar to 
teach the AI to lie.

Sorry, but that is just the facts, the one thing you have shown yourself 
good at is stating lies.