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From: DeepBlue <dan.koren@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Mahler / Berlin Philharmonic / Haitink (Philps, studio recordings0
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 22:22:25 +0000
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:51:10 +0000, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

> Hypothesis: Haitink's 'restraint', 'integrity', 'good taste' work well
> in Mahler. I'm testing this now on the basis of his studio recordings of
> symphonies 1,2,3,5,6,7 with the Berlin Philharmonic. No. 1 sounds just
> right, as it were: unmannered, refined, expressive—not dull at all.
>
> Unfortunately, No. 2 (which I sort of liked twenty years ago) does not
> clearly confirm my hypothesis. Movements 3-5 are mostly OK -― the finale
> is too much for me anyway, I find it pompous -―, but the first two are
> slow and dull. Is this good music or kitsch? Haitink makes a strong case
> for kitsch.
>

Haitink's "restraint" works best in the bathroom.

Cheers!