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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 22:00:28 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <b2f11cbb1df5fe27b628698660877858@www.novabbs.org> References: <vbd6b9$g147$1@dont-email.me> <09ce1622b872f0b0fa944e868a8c97be@www.novabbs.org> <vbnisc$2hb59$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep10.094353@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vckf9d$178f2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2813497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$UI.ktcIIMG/ocWtm8Mm6jOdQTmxAzNoMk2cx96HcBMSCZjQl6EXxG X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2194 Lines: 26 On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:35:26 +0000, Kent Dickey wrote: > In article <2024Sep10.094353@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>, >>Alpha got on that bandwagon early. It's a descendent of MIPS, but it >>renamed add into addv, and addu into add. It has been canceled around >>the year 2000. > > [ More details about architectures without trapping overflow > instructions ] > > Trapping on overflow is basically useless other than as a debug aid, > which clearly nobody values. If you take Rust's approach, and only > detect overflow in debug builds, then you already don't care about > performance. > > If you want to do almost anything at all other than core dump on > overflow, you need to branch to recovery code. And although it's > theoretically possible to recover from the trap, it's worse than any > other approach. So it's added hardware that's HARDER for software to > use. No surprise it's gone away. Note: Linux does not even have an "Integer Overflow" signal, while it does have a "FP exception" signal. But then IEEE 754 exception semantics make even less sense than Linux signals. ...