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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-18 (Thursday)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:53:39 -0400
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:14:30 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 03:35:33 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 4/22/2024 12:33 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:09:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:56:09 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/19/2024 7:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:38:44 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I watched another animated flick JUSTICE LEAGUE vs THE FATAL FIVE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this movie we have a trio of bad guys from the future travel into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past to free two of their group that are trapped in a prison in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time of the Justice League. A hero from the future also manages to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel into the past to stop them but he has a fatal weakness. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs regular doses of a drug or else he tends to forget who he is. A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug that doesn't exist in the JL time. So he forgets most of his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mission other than that there is a Fatal Five and that he needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the Limelight before getting locked away in a mental institution.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is it new that he’s insane? For that matter is it new that Jessica Cruz is
>>>>>>>>> insane?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't know. Not familiar with either of those characters. Perhaps
>>>>>>>> they were introduced to the comics after I quit reading them. Much
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Star Boy has been around since 1961. :-) Originally he had all of Superboy
>>>>>>> powers plus the ability to increase the mass of objects to get around the
>>>>>>> duplicate powers rule. Somewhere along the line, he lost the Superboy
>>>>>>> powers wiki says he’s gone through several incarnations and costume changes
>>>>>>> and race swaps. Apparently he’s been insane since the 2006 version which is
>>>>>>> well after I stopped reading the Legion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm, don't recall ever having heard of him. If he was just in Legion
>>>>>> books then that might explain it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wiki talks of storylines where he visited the 20th century, but, yeah, I
>>>>> only know him from Legion books.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was never a huge comic book fan as
>>>>>> I just didn't have the money to buy more than a rare comic book when I
>>>>>> was young enough to really want to read them. Then as I got older I
>>>>>> was more into reading science fiction books. So the only comics I've
>>>>>> read in decades were those that JMS joined in on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OMG I am so terribly terribly sorry. :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jessica Cruz has only been around for 10 years, long after I stopped
>>>>>>> reading the Legion. I was puzzled as to why I knew who she was until I
>>>>>>> finally recalled that someone I know cosplay as her
>>>>>> Good reason to remember the character.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep. That was making me crazy briefly trying to figure out why I knew this
>>>>> character, but couldn’t place her in any stories!
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw1e254ZrKl9qrrM3cWT_WiOkdH3UTK-xMRPk067VrRA&s
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wikipedia says that this was a fairly faithful version, except that it was
>>>>>>> darkseid that Smashed her ring and killed her and the ring brought her back
>>>>>>> more powerful than before
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if the ring can do that why didn't it do it for anyone else?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The wiki is very confusing. But apparently in the original stories, the
>>>>> character has a ring that isn’t a standard issue green lantern ring, but
>>>>> either has a different source or origin, or has been changed by contact
>>>>> with previous owners.  So it was a one time thing for her that wouldn’t
>>>>> happen with the standard power ring and doesn’t really make sense when they
>>>>> grafted the events of another story and another ring onto this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> like with Hal Jordan turning truly evil in that other animated flick.
>>>>>>>> That was never my Hal Jordan.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I actually remember that from the comics, but yeah, that was not my Hal
>>>>>>> Jordan either
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So they actually did that in the comics? Nothing like destroying a
>>>>>> beloved character. Guess that was a new writer pissing on the ground
>>>>>> to mark his new territory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the classic cover
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b87cf569f4014f95ebbcdf5098db0cf0-lq
>>>>> 
>>>>> This Wikipedia article explains it and who, and what was behind it, and how
>>>>> they eventually tried to walk it back, and what animated movie to avoid if
>>>>> you don’t want to see it
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Twilight?wprov=sfti1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amazingly, I actually know two of the people involved in this and I didn’t
>>>>> realize it until now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The story then proceeds from there as the trio of bad guys proceed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do bad things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll leave the rest of the story for your enjoyment when watching the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flick as it's a good story. There are some bits that didn't make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the story like an axe that can cut Superman but doesn't cut
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword but it was still an enjoyable watch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword is magic and blessed by Hephaestus.  I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hephaestus is tougher than the Persuader.  Nominally the atomic ax can cut
>>>>>>>>>>>> through anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, *nothing* cuts or breaks that lasso. Period!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would watch this but once again nothing is free on Apple TV. $3.99 to
>>>>>>>>>> rent, $12.99 to buy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The gray web to the rescue! Thank you, Al Gore.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This was OK. It wasn’t as good as the newer stuff that I’ve praised that
>>>>>>>>> looks to be 3-D for 2-D. But it balances that out by having the older voice
>>>>>>>>> cast.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’m completely confused by the continuity. The justice league that had
>>>>>>>>> Supergirl certainly knew about the Legion. But these guys don’t.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I take it we actually see the end of the green lantern corp in this movie.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We don't know why it ends but they clearly aren't around in this
>>>>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don’t know who the Legion we see at the end of the movie is, but it’s
>>>>>>>>> certainly not the Legion we saw the beginning. Jessica Cruz thanks for them
>>>>>>>>> for coming to the funeral because the dead guy thought so highly of them.
>>>>>>>>> But in fact, the dead guy never would’ve met these people.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do you mean? Those are among the people that he worked with.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That’s a completely different Saturn girl/Saturn Queen at the end than it
>>>>>>> was in the beginning. I wouldn’t even have known who it was if she didn’t
>>>>>>> have the Saturn logo on her chest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hell, one of them even asked him at the beginning of the movie if he
>>>>>>>> had taken his shot and warning him that "You know what happens if you
>>>>>>>> don't take your shot." So of course they knew him.
>>>>>>> 
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