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 =?UTF-8?Q?company=E2=80=99s?= code was written by =?UTF-8?Q?AI=E2=80=9D?=
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On Thu, 2025-05-01 at 00:57 +0300, Paavo Helde wrote:
> On 30.04.2025 04:40, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > =E2=80=9CMicrosoft CEO says up to 30% of the company=E2=80=99s code was=
 written by AI=E2=80=9D
> >=20
> > https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-ceo-says-30-=20
> > companys-002116317.html
> >=20
> > =E2=80=9CMicrosoft CEO Satya Nadella said that 20%-30% of code inside t=
he=20
> > company=E2=80=99s repositories was =E2=80=9Cwritten by software=E2=80=
=9D =E2=80=94 meaning AI =E2=80=94 during a=20
> > fireside chat with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg at Meta=E2=80=99s LlamaCon=
=20
> > conference on Tuesday.=E2=80=9D
> >=20
> > =E2=80=9CNadella gave the figure after Zuckerberg asked roughly how muc=
h of=20
> > Microsoft=E2=80=99s code is AI-generated today. The Microsoft CEO said =
the=20
> > company was seeing mixed results in AI-generated code across different=
=20
> > languages, with more progress in Python and less in C++.=E2=80=9D
>=20
> Currently all my C++ code is written with the help of AI (Github=20
> copilot). It basically replaces some googling. some find-and-replace and=
=20
> some recorded macros (which Visual Studio ditched several years ago) and=
=20
> sometimes offers some interesting code proposals. Still, at the moment I=
=20
> would say it is ca 50-50, I am not exactly sure if the overall effort of=
=20
> checking and fixing its code takes less time than figuring the correct=
=20
> approach out myself. At least it feels like communicating with someone=
=20
> who understands vaguely what I am doing for living! Hey, that's=20
> something ;-)

It is already demonstrated in CSCall++'s OOP idea in ClassGuidelines.txt (a=
bout
the design of class)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/ClassGuidelines.txt/=
download
50% of programming task can be done mechanically, others are mostly about t=
he=20
desired algorithm of solving problems.

It is all about correctness ... you need to firstly define what the correct=
 is.

I don't use 'AI' to generate code because my feeling is that the amount of =
task
is greater (and the gain is less) than following the class guidelines.
And, from my understanding, 'AI' cannot solve O(2^N) problems. But that is =
only
necessary when Ptime-algorithm is required. Real program need not be a Ptim=
e-algorithm.