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Subject: Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated,
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 06:18:31 EDT, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 21:14 Paul W. Schleck wrote:
>> For newsgroup viability and longevity, should we be making an effort
>> to find multiple, independent, moderation teams and services across
>> newsgroups, ensure constituencies to populate those newsgroups with
>> participation, and develop contingency plans in advance should those
>> moderators need to be replaced?  Is four moderated newsgroups enough
>> for one moderator (Ian) and should we try to recruit others?
>
>I have serious doubt that this will succeed. There are not that many
>people (anymore) and setting up moderation infrastructure is a task
>only for technical skilled people.

free to try . . . but because lurkers outnumber contributors by a wide
margin, lurkers can already subscribe, browse, watch, search, etc., in
any (un)moderated newsgroup via any read-server(s) they might be using
for whatever purpose(s) they might be serving, much open to conjecture

even those newsgroups that are heavily inundated by troll farm clutter
are continually monitored, presumably by automated a.i. infrastructure
(gathering, sniffing, snooping, spying, whatever they call big brother
is watching you, watching everyone in their vast militarized universe)
of corporate-government insiders, but also by little guys, individuals
on the outside, mostly lurking for their own reasons with some perhaps
posting on (rare) occasion? lurkers are definitely the silent majority

the primary attraction of posting to unmoderated usenet newsgroups has
always been about uncensored free expression, not dialogue, discussion
or anything resembling substantive interaction ... it's not groupthink
but each individual with his/her own isolation from anyone's plurality
and that's what makes plain text usenet the only forum for free speech
in lieu of social media or anything else that is moderated, controlled