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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dsi100@yahoo.com (dsi1) Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: PING! Michael Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 22:24:56 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <b4cce67ab1a699242b8dea09a18579e4@www.novabbs.org> References: <607787157742667b807cc80a31cbde11@www.novabbs.com> <lq7kp3FomsnU1@mid.individual.net> <0748c6d7555c929144d3fbc8a29a6be3@www.novabbs.com> <vhmck9$gj0c$1@dont-email.me> <e54d34316d00ed7fb6b500ed6b2e481e@www.novabbs.com> <MPG.41a941d31ff66e79105@news.individual.net> <AiH%O.41838$giU1.13799@fx09.iad> <673f798c$0$2385547$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vhq8ni$17uuf$1@dont-email.me> <vhqdpo$18or3$3@dont-email.me> <vht9tk$1r4gs$1@dont-email.me> <0f0e34d7-1cd6-ee4f-5dac-46f8b6f5c49b@example.net> <vi021b$2cl2r$1@dont-email.me> <aba32ec1-ff92-51bc-9bce-76645cfdc722@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3980066"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="fvfMHpfyYaD/vlBz5lqYkjt6mNUTPbft/wBbWy6Ff1w"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$oC1r7vLgd/mEymVHRHKE.Olx9fzzjKkdBLhn6ZH8pHsaiOAV/X.mO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 3a41f635759bc15db100ab3d5cacd588ab964edd Bytes: 3529 Lines: 51 On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:27:32 +0000, D wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote: > >> D wrote: >> >>>> My Solar panels are SILFAB. A joint project between USA and Canada. >>>> >>>> https://www.allamericanmade.com/solar-panels-made-in-usa/ >>>> >>>> I list that because a lot of people say 'solar is all Chinese crap'. >>>> No it isn't and hasn't been for a long time. Computer chips for >>>> cars may be a problem but we have the gear still to make them and >>>> the experience. >>>> >>> >>> What about the solar supply chains and raw materials? Are those also >>> under US control? >> >> We are talking production of materials to something needed. Twist if >> you want but that isn't normally considered when a country brands an >> item as 'made in (insert country)' and you know it. >> > > I'm thinking about the security of the supply chain, and that we must > make > sure as little money as possible ends up in china. It has nothing to do > with twisting and everything to do with building a prosperous and rich > USA > and a weak and imploding china! =) The reality is that most Americans aren't interested in manufacturing jobs. They aren't really interested in doing most jobs unless they are well paid. That's where the immigrants come in. I don't know how things are in your country but this country has always relied on immigrants for cheap labor most of us wouldn't touch. That would be like building America's railroad or working in Hawaiian plantations. We don't need the Chinese to lay the railroad tracks or work our fields but immigrants are still an important part of the American economy. They do the jobs we don't want. They pay payroll taxes and sales tax. They try to avoid contact with the services available to most American tax payers. They try to remain invisible. America will never be prosperous and rich while exploiting the poor and powerless. Today, it's the immigrants, tomorrow it will be the poor and elderly Americans, and our educational system. You can take that to the bank.