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John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 9 Aug 2024 at 01:51:22 BST, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-04 19:46, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
>>>> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>>>> They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-08-02 17:16, They're all DEAD, LOL! wrote:
>>>>>>>> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>>>>>>>> They're all DEAD, LOL! <kill_vaxholes@mandates.killthem> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <andrew@spam.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad nospam can't see this as he was one of Apple's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biggest apologists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know why he just disappeared without even saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> goodbye?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arlen suggested his contract with Apple expired and he wasn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> defend the indefensible for free.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just hope nothing happened to him health wise.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> There can be many reasons why, but given how regular he was and
>>>>>>>>>>> how abrupt
>>>>>>>>>>> his disappearance, it can't be discounted sadly.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> nospam and Lewis (g.kreme) are likely dead from the Covid shots
>>>>>>>>>> or the
>>>>>>>>>> virus itself (despite them both being proudly "vaxxed" and boosted).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And good riddance.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Funny how antivax kooks manage to inject their bullshit into
>>>>>>>>> almost any
>>>>>>>>> topic. I’ve had every COVID shot, never got COVID, and I am still
>>>>>>>>> alive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had COVID before the shots came out. My immunity is FAR SUPERIOR
>>>>>>>> to yours, durable, and I suffered no long lasting effects. In fact,
>>>>>>>> I haven't been sick since.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your degree is in... ...what?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Irrelevant. Universities only hand out degrees in Stupid. This has
>>>>>> been true for decades.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Go enjoy your preventable measles and polio you plague rat.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was vaccinated against measles and polio with shots that actually
>>>>>>>> WORKED as claimed, unlike the COVID shots.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope you die of 'suddenly'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do you even know (without googling) what mRNA is?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What good could POSSIBLY come of hijacking the cells in your body to
>>>>>> produce a KNOWN TOXIC spike protein?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> So your lymphocytes can do their own research against an antigen (spike
>>>>> protein) that is ephemeral and matches one of the main antigens (spike
>>>>> protein) of a virus that is much less ephemeral and has worse and longer
>>>>> lasting repercussions than the vaccine. Duh!
>>>>> 
>>>>> A vaccine hijacking your cells to produce spike protein which confers
>>>>> immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is far preferable to the actual virus hijacking
>>>>> your
>>>>> cells, especially when people were immunologically naive. Nowadays either
>>>>> the virus or the vaccine will update immunity in complex ways given
>>>>> imprinting. I would prefer the vaccine.
>>>> 
>>>> The virus can stay confined to one area of the body, such as the lungs.
>>>> The spike proteins produced as a result of the shot do NOT stay confined
>>>> in such a manner.
>>> 
>>> No. The virus is everywhere, but happens to affect the lungs worse.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As I have never been sick from COVID, my immunity is superior to yours
>>>>> since you actually caught it. Immunity to COVID for most is fleeting
>>>>> because the virus evolves so readily. Our B cells evolve too due to
>>>>> mutation of DNA and selection of better adapted variants. Again I would
>>>>> rather this process happen in response to a vaccine than a pathogen.
>>>> 
>>>> Your immunity is NOT better than my natural immunity. For one, the spike
>>>> protein mutates frequently, thereby rendering the shots ineffective after
>>>> a few months. That's why YOU have to keep getting "boosters". MY immunity,
>>>> however, includes recognition of other parts of the virus, including, for
>>>> instance, the nucleocapsid protein, which changes not nearly as frequently.
>>> 
>>> Your degree is in... ...what?
>>> 
>> Anyone who asserts “The only people lying were those who were pro clot
>> shot.” is incapable of arguing in good faith and discredits themselves. I
>> will not be dissuaded from getting my updated shot this fall, though I
>> might time it a little later. Worked well so far. Given I never suffered
>> COVID that long COVID nightmare has not reared its ugly head for me.
>> 
>> Clot shots? Clot virus.
>> 
>> https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20240318/covid-vaccines-reduce-risk-heart-failure-clots
>> 
>> https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/vaccines-cut-risk-post-covid-heart-failure-blood-clots-least-6-months-data-suggest
>> 
>> https://health.clevelandclinic.org/should-you-be-worried-about-blood-clots-with-covid-19
> 
> I have just recovered, undamaged, from COVID. At my age it might well have
> been Finito had it not been for the vaccines and boosters.
> 
> I shall gladly take any further boosters as soon as they are offered to me,
> which they surely will be sometime in the Autumn.
> 
>
Your recent infection has probably acted as a booster or update in itself.
You might consider the time gap between your infection and the availability
of the updated vaccines in figuring out when to get the shot. Plus there’s
the time gap between your next shot and when subsequent updates shots will
be available. 

I have been getting the flu and COVID shots together and the flu shot is
also a timing thing, between receiving it and when the peak of the season
might occur.