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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 00:15:16 +0000 Subject: Re: SpaceTime Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <6249F967.3B4A@ix.netcom.com> <lbqi8uF7r8kU3@mid.individual.net> <SZCcnfMeCMTTzMT7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <46358f5157687acd0539d6848f6b626c@www.novabbs.com> <lc2g63FdkjpU3@mid.individual.net> <a36c62011f40ea648ffe8d884ce5eebd@www.novabbs.com> <17d537553944a2de$5$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <51a50934574cfb09144c2a6c26eceb74@www.novabbs.com> <udidndQOHOqpNcH7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <5dba54ad373d3e9a50644c063f71a5b1@www.novabbs.com> <LkiaDz8Otko5Q-u5wJLOx98bx6k@jntp> <c1c87b515e8d35ea861b9ce9c93806a4@www.novabbs.com> <QuGdnWLN2ex2k8D7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <5a03b3defc4af4304b84f5d6059306b0@www.novabbs.com> <g5CcnfmPtY1ytsD7nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com> <_s2dnea9UdCjrsD7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <_s2dneG9UdCsqcD7nZ2dnZfqnPjqyJ2d@giganews.com> <R6mcnRnyb9i4pMD7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <WoucnWxiYsY0o8D7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:13:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <WoucnWxiYsY0o8D7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <baudnZf-rvGJM8L7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 133 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-HxUr/ICXECc7Hj05SmBCv95u+WxrLYRvKcGPJMSMVQdtYL5wTNpv/V4MSEIXh0BmBaMYDAHnkK88YVb!2i6D3K/tdqxNztRd3y6gN9Diw+iQLoBzanv0ZZU8igT3wlHv5Z55h8AThkOdhAG7bPDbu+I9g5tl X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 6783 On 06/02/2024 08:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/02/2024 08:31 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 06/02/2024 08:10 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 06/02/2024 08:06 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> On 06/02/2024 07:35 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>> On 06/02/2024 07:12 PM, gharnagel wrote: >>>>>> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/02/2024 04:22 PM, gharnagel wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > More invalid analogies. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, if you assume causality, then tachyons can't be fantastical, >>>>>>> they're only the result of something that is or did. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The neutrino physics are mostly about supersymmetry. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. Neutrinos are firmly ensconced in the Standard model of >>>>>> particle physics, while supersymmetric particles are not. >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you assume lack of causality it's pretty easy to arrive at >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena. >>>>>> It comes from the Lorentz transform: >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt) >>>>>> (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2) >>>>>> >>>>>> From that comes >>>>>> >>>>>> dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2) >>>>>> >>>>>> u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2) >>>>>> >>>>>> u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag >>>>>> in physics. It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond >>>>>> that point. Physicists, who should know better, have persisted >>>>>> into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions >>>>>> like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation >>>>>> and a "reinterpretation principle." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mathematics really owes physics more and better >>>>> mathematics of the super-classical and infinitary >>>>> and the law(s) of large numbers, mathematical >>>>> physics is entirely subject to mathematical formalism >>>>> and the ingenuity of mathematical forms. >>>>> >>>>> Relativity is rather simplified with GR being primary >>>>> and SR being local, and what remains is mass/energy >>>>> equivalence and a cosmological constant reflecting >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> Then, the linear mass/energy equivalence >>>>> is quite Galilean, while the rotational is >>>>> special in both the spatial and spacial, >>>>> and there's lots of data from both >>>>> linear particle accelerators, and, cyclotrons. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> About supersymmetry, there's strong and weak I suppose, >>>> about that the "weak" sort is usual flux while the "strong" >>>> sort I suppose is only at "Tevatron energy levels", and sort >>>> of contrived, where of course Higgs field is not even really >>>> a classical field, and, Higgs Bosons if "Standard" are also >>>> "Not Standard", that the Higgs Bosons have giant divots, >>>> then neutrinos and for neutrino physics as a complement >>>> to electron physics, have that those really reflect as >>>> partner in the symmetric then super-symmetric as well. >>>> >>>> I.e. this sort of neutrino supersymmetry or "low-energy" >>>> is out of regular potentials, not "superpotentials". >>>> >>>> Well. shoot, "low-energy supersymmetry" is already >>>> called for "Tera-electronvolt" i.e. "the slightly weaker >>>> cousin of extra-strong supersymmetry", where what >>>> I'm talking about then I guess is "very-low" or even >>>> "slightly negative" energy supersymmetry. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Little-Higgs", say, ... like "in this case while it's a >>>> thing the number would be negative like the flux >>>> was going the opposite direction", .... >>>> >>>> It's sort of like solar neutrinos and, you know, >>>> those flowing _in_. >>>> >>>> Which might help explain the usual seasonal models, .... >>>> >>>> Yeah I'm interested in the "near-zero energy supersymmetry" >>>> not the "freakishly outlandish well at least let's get a grant >>>> to build a collider and talk about our g-2 lognormal shift >>>> so it looks like we're writing physics", bit. >>>> >>>> Heisenberg, now with more certainty, >>>> Hubble, now with less inflation, >>>> Higgs, much, much diminished. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> (I.e., "supersymmetry", not "supersymmetry-breaking".) >>> >> >> "This “Higgs” is a NGB and therefore exactly massless." >> -- http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0502182v1 >> >> > > > (P.S. they work that up in a "3 + 1 space-time", > yet it works just fine in a "3 + 1/2".) > https://phys.org/news/2024-06-reinterpreting-higgs-mechanism-decay-fission.html Just saw this today, imagine they've heard of "Little Higgs" and "SUSY" and heard about neutrino physics and general reverse flux everywhere. Or, you know, maybe not general reverse flux.