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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 19:51:03 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <bbcc6772a61345be8f72179b65d3947016e06b9a@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <0e67005f-120e-4b3b-a4d2-ec4bbc1c5662@att.net> <vga5mb$st52$1@dont-email.me> <vga7qi$talf$1@dont-email.me> <03b90d6c-fff1-411d-9dec-1c5cc7058480@tha.de> <380a63a4ba5e4206504c27b06c9f2a4b6bf3c02d@i2pn2.org> <vgaua6$11df5$1@dont-email.me> <8671079a0207b0f016ab1455868167011f3e65be@i2pn2.org> <vgcm06$1en9g$1@dont-email.me> <efd703ab2977082715e2adef7e49c18910c07d76@i2pn2.org> <vgd3ck$1grkg$1@dont-email.me> <fb5d2ffb843200379d4201b8a375e6fafa82ce48@i2pn2.org> <vggc5f$25spe$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 00:51:03 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1293354"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vggc5f$25spe$9@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2919 Lines: 42 On 11/6/24 1:22 PM, WM wrote: > On 06.11.2024 12:46, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 11/5/24 7:34 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 05.11.2024 13:03, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 11/5/24 3:45 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>>>> I describe that a point between two finite intervals has two finite >>>>> intervals around it. Even this simple conclusion must be denied by >>>>> the believers in matheology. >>> >>>> If you mean that between to finite length intervals, which include >>>> there endpoints, and a point that is between those two intervals, >>>> then YES there exist two other intervals between the point and those >>>> two intervals. >>> >>> These other intervals also have irrational endpoints. Every point >>> outside of an interval is next to some endpoint which is irrational. >> >> Or rational endpoints. > > No, the rationals are centres of their intervals. They can also be endpoints of intervals. >> >> There is no "next to" on the dense line > > Every positive point is nearer to zero than to any negative point. > Of -x and 0 the latter is next to any positive x. > But that isn't "next to". There is no point that is NEXT TO any other point, as if X and Y were "next to" each other, then the point (X+Y)/2 would be between them, and thus they are not next to each other. By the rules of arithmetic of Rational and Reals, that expresion is ALWAYS a value, and will ALWAYS be between the two numbers. > Regards, WM >