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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Ultimate Foundation of Truth Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 09:30:46 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <bc0ba48c5fe3b53a9a83a0f5c2ca76882cdf374a@i2pn2.org> References: <vnh0sq$35mcm$1@dont-email.me> <vpb1le$3jct4$13@dont-email.me> <0f7cd503773838ad12f124f23106d53552e277b8@i2pn2.org> <vpbknk$3qig2$1@dont-email.me> <vpc560$3sqf7$1@dont-email.me> <vpd5r4$2q85$2@dont-email.me> <7e3e9d35d880cfcad12f505dfb39c5650cdd249e@i2pn2.org> <vpfo75$js1o$1@dont-email.me> <f3c8332f4b42f8e085d4d4dac017ccc8a0dc5a5f@i2pn2.org> <vpgt6o$tiun$1@dont-email.me> <3cf165ef9793e844dc9d5db82aecbc47f9545367@i2pn2.org> <vpiubu$1fvqe$1@dont-email.me> <080bf2b1c322247548c6ec61c9f054359062ccd4@i2pn2.org> <vpj8c9$1hivf$3@dont-email.me> <6fc61a762b56308f9919993f29ba3e77f7ba84c7@i2pn2.org> <vpl2q5$23vks$6@dont-email.me> <6320ec8cdc4ab9fc06e5001c0b4069132ce1af58@i2pn2.org> <vpn8q6$2jkdj$2@dont-email.me> <fde9d3850bbfcfbea9597d90419a0e0a1d8c5552@i2pn2.org> <vpop70$2vaf3$1@dont-email.me> <bd7d954830f64ed5b718b23323fce66b33b4b89a@i2pn2.org> <vppt4h$34vin$1@dont-email.me> <118757d760bdecf247749f20c8c9b15518be3d33@i2pn2.org> <vprcnm$3gqpb$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 14:30:46 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2198458"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vprcnm$3gqpb$2@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3191 Lines: 32 On 2/27/25 11:06 PM, olcott wrote: > On 2/27/2025 7:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 2/27/25 9:33 AM, olcott wrote:>> >>> Yes logic is broken when it does not require a truth-maker >>> for every truth. It is also broken when its idiomatic meaning >>> of the term "provable" diverges from the meaning of the term >>> truth-maker. That every truth must have a truth-maker is outside >>> the scope of what you understand. >> >> But it does, it just you don't seem to understand what a truth makee is? >> >> Where was a statement without a truth-maker used? >> > > Logic remains clueless about the philosophical > notion of truth makers and truth bearers and this is > why logic gets these things incorrectly. > No, you remain clueless about the notion of Logic and its rules. I guess you are just admitting that your "logic" is just a lie, as you claim "logic" is wrong. THus, you are admitting that your statements are just fully illogical. You also are admitting that you are talking in contradictions, as you try to use a thing you say is incorrect to show something. This just shows how stupid you are, that you reject the very thing that you need to use to try to "prove" what you want to do.