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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: The Return of Michael Monkey
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 16:23:20 +0000
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 22:31:52 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:34:01 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 14:12:25 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 13:03:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 12:28:29 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> MummyChunk wrote:
>>>>>> Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, monkey boy Michael
>>>>>> Pendragon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Why is he called "monkey boy"???
>>>>>
>>>>> It might come from the Pink Floyd Animals album, Lord of the Flies or
>>>>> George
>>>>> Orwell's Animal Farm, or possibly a mashup of all three.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm known as donkey, Pendleton is the monkey, Peter J. Ross was called
>>>>> Piggy
>>>>> (although PJR has been gone from the newsgroup for a couple of years
>>>>> now).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think George Dance has always just been referred to as "Dunce"
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the basics as I remember them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a response to the post seen at:
>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680817254#680817254
>>>>
>>>> Again, Donkey, this is the story of how "Monkey" and "Donkey" came
>>>> about:
>>>>
>>>> Since you've brought me back for one more day, Donkey, I'll answer your
>>>> question here (and in the pointless duplicate thread you've created to
>>>> ask it again it), as well.
>>>>
>>>> The origin of "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with Gary Gamble.
>>>>
>>>> Gary Gamble had left the group long before my arrival here.  And as far
>>>> as I know, I have never interacted with him.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with anything said at AAPC.
>>>>
>>>> I live in a very small house that was built in the 1920s.  I like to
>>>> think of it as a rustic cottage or a cozy bungalow.  In order to expand
>>>> the living space, one of the previous owners finished the basement, and
>>>> turned it into a combination kitchen, dining room and bar.  I keep my
>>>> computer down there, so when I'm online, I'm technically in the
>>>> basement.
>>>>
>>>> About seven years ago (give or take), my wife sent our youngest child
>>>> downstairs to see what I was doing.  He looked over my shoulder while I
>>>> was posting something to Usenet AAPC, and shouted up to her "He's
>>>> talking to Will Donkey the computer."
>>>>
>>>> Since the idea of someone conversing with a donkey on computer is funny,
>>>> it immediately became a running joke in our house.  "Daddy's talking to
>>>> Will Donkey again," etc).
>>>>
>>>> Since stubbornness is one of your strongest characteristics, I
>>>> immediately began addressing you as "Will Donkey" in AAPC as well.
>>>>
>>>> "Monkey," otoh, came about when Karen Tellefsen wrote a satirical poem
>>>> about our endless flame war here, set to the tune of "Pop Goes the
>>>> Weasel." "Pop Goes the Weasel," in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a
>>>> nursery rhyme about a monkey chasing a weasel around a cobbler's bench.
>>>> In her poem, she replaced "Weasel" with "Donkey" (signifying you, as I
>>>> had already started calling you "Will Donkey" at that time). She
>>>> retained "Monkey" from the original because I often posted under my
>>>> backup account here as "Coco DeSockmonkey."
>>>
>>> I remember Coco.
>>>
>>>> You and George immediately started calling me "Michael Monkey" as a
>>>> result.
>>>
>>> No, I almost always have called you Michael Pendragon, choosing to take
>>> the high road and not dink to your low level of childish insults and
>>> name calling.
>>
>> You've been calling me a "Little Green Monkey" for the past week or so,
>
> Tit for Tat, look it up.

No kidding, Pee-wee.

It just counteracts your claim that you "almost always have called (me)
Michael Pendragon."

>>>> There ypu have it: "Will Donkey" came from my son's misreading of your
>>>> name on my monitor, and "Michael Monkey" came from Karen's satirical
>>>> poem.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>
>>> That sounds about right except the animal name calling really goes back
>>> to earlier times.
>>
>> Mummy Chunks asked you where the "Monkey Boy" name came from -- not when
>> calling people by childish animal names began.
>
> Well, we should start at where it all begins, never mind that you second
> handed the idea, Pendragon.

No, Donkey.

MummyChunk didn't ask when the childish name-calling began.  They asked
about the origin of "Monkey Boy."

We should start by answering the actual question that was asked.

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