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moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 1/21/2025 2:19 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2025-01-21 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>> Dana Loesch reacts to Joe Biden's final act as President by issuing
>>> preemptive pardons to Dr. Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milley and select
>>> members of his family.
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/1SUzugSl2zU?si=hTexzTIs3GIpS2Dq
>>> 
>> 
>> I would be very curious to see what would happen if someone contested a 
>> preemptive pardon in the courts. Let's say someone wanted to have Fauci 
>> charged with something he did during the period covered by the pardon. 
>> His lawyers would obviously cite the pardon but what if the prosecutor 
>> didn't think a preemptive pardon was a power held by the president and 
>> proceeded with the trial. Presumably any guilty verdict would be 
>> challenged on appeal but then the appeal could be challenged as well. I 
>> can't help but wonder what the Supreme Court would rule about the 
>> presidential pardon power if the case made it to them.
>> 
>> Or have preemptive pardons already been tested in court and found to be 
>> a valid expression of a president's powers?
>> 
>> A preemptive pardon seems like a presumption of the guilt of the 
>> recipient by the president which would seem to go against the entire 
>> presumption of innocence at the heart of the legal system.
> 
> ...except that it was stated to be expressly NOT such a presumption.

Doesn't matter what the text of the pardon says in that regard. The courts
have long held that accepting a pardon is an implicit admission of guilt by
the recipient.