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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 14:37:59 +0000 From: john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Small batch SMT tools? Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 07:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: <btrjcjlau514kg86ssg4gj0j65jcd0rg4e@4ax.com> References: <vac7fm$1b4rk$2@dont-email.me> <vacca7$1bu0l$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 37 X-Trace: sv3-gwB3VfM6uN3IA+PhpxgS4+639YqMhjOIit8yf8Hnouxe46zhnyVLcnm21NjKWs5kzq2zGoEi9FgSvhC!WgGKr13CEjSLliK/uWMHa5Z6ke8FTLWOBcnKlnjuB6kh4/Iap0OuXj8kJ35Zozf9IWfUbpwe016R!6sAMdQ== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2332 On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 10:23:03 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >> I've a colleague who has offered to "build" the first batch of >> boards for my alpha site -- about 1000 pieces (though small; >> about 3 sq in each; 25 different designs). >> >> I feel like I'd be pushing my luck to ask him to also build the >> prototypes -- about 50 total pieces. >> >> I have an opportunity to rescue some kit, this weekend (PnP, >> stenciler, hotplate, another Leister, etc.) if I opt to do the >> prototypes myself. >> >> But, I suspect this will be more work than it is worth. (I've never >> assembled boards this small and densely packed). And, is more "stuff" >> to store, here. >> >> [OTOH, if I have to do any rework...] >> >> Perhaps I should "ask nicely" and promise him some baked goods or >> ice cream as an incentive? Pizzas for the folks on the 'line? >> >> > >Board stuffing has got so cheap that we don’t even stuff protos. > >JLCPCB is the bomb, apart from the occasional rotated QFN. > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs It's crazy that, starting from the earliest days of ICs, you can make a mistake by rotating a part. You couldn't plug in a tube wrong.