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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 15:00:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 10:00:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Who here is too stupid to know that DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction? Newsgroups: comp.theory References: <v8jh7m$30k55$1@dont-email.me> <v8kp6s$3c5h2$2@dont-email.me> <v8ld1f$3f6vr$5@dont-email.me> <v8ldl0$3ennf$1@dont-email.me> <v8lfb9$3g2jl$1@dont-email.me> <v8lgsr$3gadt$2@dont-email.me> <v8lhrr$3gkbk$1@dont-email.me> <v8n6un$3tv08$1@dont-email.me> <v8nums$1n09$6@dont-email.me> <v8pvsv$iius$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> In-Reply-To: <v8pvsv$iius$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <c-WdnSrh_5ZhdS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-t4foA4FsYlPFgVwttHDVGM6GD2D2/EopBG5yQRiyHsHGD5/qSQZmGXQp2U7EdvlOx/L7oPdENVv72Tc!7/VkOkUGBzK/uTGMIckYlRiPEp1DHA6y0vtMnzYfrFgKB7n4kER5309o9XTVRojrtW6PfnafNg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3216 On 8/5/2024 2:44 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-04 13:11:56 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 8/4/2024 1:26 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 03.aug.2024 om 17:20 schreef olcott:>> >>>> When you try to show how DDD simulated by HHH does >>>> reach its "return" instruction you must necessarily >>>> must fail unless you cheat by disagreeing with the >>>> semantics of C. That you fail to have a sufficient >>>> understanding of the semantics of C is less than no >>>> rebuttal what-so-ever. >>> >>> Fortunately that is not what I try, because I understand that HHH >>> cannot possibly simulate itself correctly. >>> >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> In other words when HHH simulates itself simulating DDD it >> is supposed to do something other than simulating itself >> simulating DDD ??? Do you expect it to make a cup of coffee? > > In another message you have said that when HHH simulates itself > simulating DDD is does not simulate itself simulating itself > simulating DDD. You have not told whether it makes a cup of coffee. > Neither action can be seen in the traces you have shown. > HHH and HH and the original H have proved that they simulate themselves simulating DDD, DD and P for three years now. They did this by deriving the correct execution trace that simulating themselves simulating their input would derive. Maybe all of my reviewers have been saying that I am wrong about this on the basis of pure bluster in that they are totally confused by assembly language and don't have the slightest clue what it means. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer