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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Job Offer Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:03:01 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 113 Message-ID: <c0cmtjdoudci2j2sn05htvb206jimlv60o@4ax.com> References: <vrcjm9$37g90$1@dont-email.me> <vrcq4u$3bhuo$3@dont-email.me> <vrcrmd$3e2vp$2@dont-email.me> <6btjtjdrni0jk9a26po6km2fhm7aevvv4b@4ax.com> <k65ktjhuoaj2ppt2ipoitb2jjtm3gjletn@4ax.com> <96vktjpgbhmo89a8inipscorbe1vdbljnu@4ax.com> <k51ltj5kgf0j5m6av7g68oku9hdcg368ut@4ax.com> <992ltj5eo4mqs6af1h1tlpf23p4cs8ia4h@4ax.com> <8bsltj9vtgcl6hat19jtv5jc1qgo6m0ob5@4ax.com> <4jamtjtbo7us6rf930lgn77f7cp521gl96@4ax.com> <vrfa00$1kurf$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:03:05 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9097d2466102b6b5eaf7fb0ab8586a41"; logging-data="1775053"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/HlXqVV/5PRxYx6jgVYJ9+OvKEMg0YYmw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:36QluHy44ISDu5ODF6K8Qbm+ixQ= Bytes: 5986 On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:38:24 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 3/19/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:45:15 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per se. As long as >>>>>>>>>>>> they don't >>>>>>>>>>>> steal too much and actually care for their "subjects". >>>>>>>>>>>> []'s >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But with every system, there are degrees of plunder, death >>>>>>>>>>> and destruction. Some pursue mass murder, some are >>>>>>>>>>> horrible, others merely awful, some bearable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political philosopher. >>>>>>>>> The dialectic is eternal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human societies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others with a sword, >>>>>>>>> knout, secret police or what have you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical' which can be >>>>>>>>> pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone, "You can steal >>>>>>>>> more with a pen than a gun." The modern applications of >>>>>>>>> that usually start with, "For the children...". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No matter what kind of government, there will be at least one person >>>>>>>> who wants to take control of everybody else... and believes it's only >>>>>>>> right and proper that he does so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Never mind governments... in any group. >>>>>>> Frankie??? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a self esteem thing. When people take directions from someone >>>>>> with low esteem it makes them feel important. It doesn't seem to >>>>>> matter if the directions are forced on them as in schools, or >>>>>> voluntary as in social groups. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think leaders are generally people with low esteem who need >>>>>> followers to make them feel important. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's more likely, "I >>>>>> need to feel important, so follow me." >>>>> >>>>> Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all circumstances. >>>>> >>>>> Not many senior people in the military are weak kneaded, quite simply >>>>> because their responsibilities are already mapped out before hey get >>>>> the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft maintenance" and "if >>>>> the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your job" while probably >>>>> not spoken is understood by both parties. >>>> >>>> "Leaders" in every category are forever striving to have more power >>>> and get more control. I know that they believe they are "serving," but >>>> that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to feel important. >>> >>> Some leaders are different. Just like people are different. >>> One of the first things you learn in medicine. >>> Study "Pepe" Mujica and Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. They are as >>> poor today as they were when they took office...... >>> Mujica retired last year, and wants to spend the rest of his >>> life on his farm. Lula retired in 2010 intending to spend his last >>> days with his family, and only came back to fight the fascists here in >>> Brazil. >>> Even Jesus, who I believe existed (but as a politician not a >>> character in a rather badly written fairy tale) was never a >>> power/money/control grabber. And he is still a "Leader" today. LOL. >>> []'s >> >> Yeah, from what I read he seemed like an allright kind of guy. Too bad >> that so many people call him by the wrong name. >> >> -- >> C'est bon >> Soloman > >Allah? I read somewhere that his name started with "y," but I'm pretty sure they didn't have the English alphabet then. Being a respect person, I always reffered to him as Mr. Christ. -- C'est bon Soloman