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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 08:31:18 -0700
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:25:17 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Horny Goat wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 10:10:20 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>>> You quoted an article that contradicts your basic premise that human
>>>> activities do not cause any Global Warming.
>>>> I will recommend to the committee that, although D for usually =
stands
>>>> for Deaf or Dumb, you shall be known as D for Dunce, to wear a =
pointy
>>>> cap and sit in a corner away from your keyboard.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, read again. Carefully.
>>=20
>> The trouble with the whole global warming meme is that Earth has
>> demonstrably had wide temperature swings going back hundreds of
>> millions of years and the present is in fact one of the cooler times.
>
>That is not a problem at all.
>
>First, the biosphere had time to adapt to those temperatures, which=20
>changed very slowly, while we are now forcing change at a rate orders of=
=20
>magnitude higher.  Have you noticed how the trees in your area had=20
>plenty of time to develop resistance to the mountain pine beetle so that=
=20
>half of your lodgepole pine was not lost?  What?  They didn't?
>
>Secondly, we were not supporting eight  billion people in those past=20
>climates.  We did not have trillions of dollars of infrastructure=20
>tailored to current conditions (such as, for example, being above water)=
=20
>which will be wiped out.
>
>Think the site C dam is costing a lot of money? Try relocating London
>(Vancouver's average is at 34m, so you're fine for a long time even in=20
>the worst case scenario).
>
>
>>=20
>> But most importantly it's established that there are 'tipping points'
>> which nobody really knows for sure where they are so even if climate
>> swings are 95% natural, that 5% portion from human activity COULD push
>> it over the edge.
>
>It's scary enough without tipping points.  A world 3C warmer would be=20
>very different.  Costs of adaptation would be in the trillions, and even=
=20
>so the forced relocation and death toll would be vast.  The world would=20
>be much poorer.
>
>Four children have been born in my family in the past year.  Most of=20
>them will probably live to see the year 2100.  What kind of world do you=
=20
>want them to see?
>>=20
>> (And this works in both directions - in the 80s we were more worried
>> about cooling rather than warming. I'm sure I'm not the only one here
>> who remembers all the talk of "nuclear winter")
>
>That is an entirely separate issue, only to come about in the event of=20
>nuclear war or asteroid impact.  Nor is that science nearly as settled,=20
>though  there's evidence of a freeze after the K/T impact.

But ... but ... if he didn't drag that herring across our path, he
wouldn't have any arguments beyond denial.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"