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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is correctly rejected as non-halting. Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 22:57:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <c20a4e68a6b3a42ca546c974dd0047ee6628e275@i2pn2.org> References: <v6m7si$1uq86$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhc7$20hbo$2@dont-email.me> <v6mhr3$20kkr$2@dont-email.me> <v6nts5$2be3m$1@dont-email.me> <v6op4h$2fuva$4@dont-email.me> <v6qo1d$2ugov$1@dont-email.me> <v6rajl$30qtt$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 22:57:44 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3138994"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2844 Lines: 37 Am Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:20:53 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/12/2024 3:03 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-07-11 14:10:24 +0000, olcott said: >>> On 7/11/2024 1:25 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-07-10 17:53:38 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> On 7/10/2024 12:45 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>> Op 10.jul.2024 om 17:03 schreef olcott: >>>> However, each of those instances has the same sequence of >>>> instructions that the x86 language specifies the same operational >>>> meaning. >>> *That is counter-factual* >>> When DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the semantics of >>> the x86 programming language HHH must abort its emulation of DDD or >>> both HHH and DDD never halt. The assembly is not concerned with aborting or halting. >>> When DDD is correctly emulated by HHH1 according to the semantics of >>> the x86 programming language HHH1 need not abort its emulation of DDD >>> because HHH has already done this. >> However, the program DDD is the same in both cases and therefore the >> its behavioral meaning per x86 semantics is also the same. > HHH1(DDD) only halts because HHH(DDD) aborts its emulation thus proving > the the behaviors are different. The simple fact remains that if the behaviour of a program depends on what is simulating it, that simulator is faulty. >>> The behavior of DDD emulated by HHH1 is identical to the behavior of >>> the directly executed DDD(). >> Which is the behaviour of DDD accordint to the semantics of x86 >> language. > If you stupidly ignore that DDD does call HHH in recursive emulation it > might superfically seem that way. It does that in every (non-)simulation, no change there. -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.