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From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz)
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Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy.
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 01:31:59 +0000
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On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 20:45:08 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 18:43:41 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>>> W dniu 11.01.2025 o 19:10, rhertz pisze:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:25:42 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> W dniu 11.01.2025 o 18:16, rhertz pisze:
>>>>>> Under Newton, a photon has gravitational mass m, for which it's affected
>>>>>> by gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under which Newton? Do you mean Newton's
>>>>> optics? It was abandoned in XVIIIth century.
>>>>
>>>> Von Soldner's Newton (since 1801)
>>>
>>> Newton's optics was abandoned, if not in XVIIIth
>>> century than not very long after 1801.
>>
>> And recovered by Einstein in 1911, with a paper WHERE HE MAKE
>> AFFIRMATIONS about gravitational mass of energy.
>>
>> Ask yourself WHY 1960 Pound-Rebka paper had the title "Apparent weight
>> of photons" and later, before his death, Pound wrote his memoirs
>> "Weighting photons".
>
> All entirely correct,
> -in the Newtonian approximation to general relativity-.
>
> As yet we have not yet encountered circumstances in which
> the Newtonian approximation is not good enough
> to calculate the relativistic red shift,
>
> Jan



Then you accept what Einstein affirmed in his 1911 paper: "Energy has
gravitational mass".

So much gobbledygook in such old paper just to conceal that he was using
Planck to calculate a shift of gh/c^2 and also m=E/c^2.

And 50 years later you had Pound embarrassing himself by using an
eye-catcher title on his paper "Does photons have mass?", just to forget
to expand that title within his 1960 paper! Rebka was only his slave, a
graduate student who depended on Pound to get his PhD in 1961.

Shame, scam, crooks, hoax, fraud, etc. This is what relativism is full
of.