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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: LTSpice model for a SiC MOSFET Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 19:09:37 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <c2vb3kpv852tiiahvm707ocafcr310dirs@4ax.com> References: <100c4og$t4lo$1@dont-email.me> <n7qj2kpht38kdk82o1hn10sss3ie2vnbrf@4ax.com> <100e4nq$1dhk3$1@dont-email.me> <eqn63k9mu6670do54hhvor6qk1pkghqiu8@4ax.com> <101203p$223b4$3@dont-email.me> <je393k53bhffvogae0inletj15ooqubm9h@4ax.com> <10125nu$237ha$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 20:09:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95aee75b14a3a0f0f003dbdc2cfe6278"; logging-data="2896077"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ZLivR0X4ueua4KVulFXbM" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:6diXswocorUlaIA4wbEm3hcGA4I= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250527-6, 27/5/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 4047 On Tue, 27 May 2025 02:43:41 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 27/05/2025 1:57 am, JM wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2025 01:07:36 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On 26/05/2025 4:20 am, JM wrote: >>>> On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:23:54 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 19/05/2025 12:15 am, john larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 18 May 2025 18:11:58 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> The drain swing is actually 1.67 times the supply voltage, but it does >>>> >>>> Where does 1.67 come from? >>> >>> Integrate a series of half-sine peaks that get to 1.67V and the voltage >>> averages to about 1V. >>> >>> You can do it as purely mathematical exercise, and I did it years ago, >>> and that's roughly the result I got. >>> >>> There's a voltage drop across the switching FET that's on and the >>> Baxandall circuit doesn't product perfect half-sine waves, so it hasn't >>> got a lot to do with precise reality, but it's good enough for >>> preliminary design. >>> >>> If senile dementia hasn't set in too far I could probably do it again. >> >> Yes, but that's the centre tap voltage. Due to the autotransformer >> action the stress across the off transistor will be twice that, or >> 1000*PI in this application. The 1700 volt device under consideration >> isn't up to the task. > >It took me a while to wake up to that. I think that there's an option >where you'd use four switching transistors, two to alternately ground >either end of the main inductor and two more to alternately switch the >feed inductor into the other end of the main inductor, but I haven't >worked it out in any detail. It's very much in the brainstorm state at >the moment > >I have found a 4.5KV MOSFET, the IXYS IXTT02450HV which could survive in >the standard Baxandall configuration. > >It's $US45.24 each in small volume (which really is excessively >expensive), and I've asked for Spice model, but if Infineon is anything >to go by, I'm not going to get it anytime soon. > >If either Spice model shows up I'll try and put a simulation together. >It has nearly got to the point where I should try and bodge a MOSFET >model that I have got access to into something that would fit one or >other data sheet, but that's hard work, and my model isn't going to be >all that trustworthy. You are probably best with bipolar. If you use a push-pull current fed half bridge the transistor breakdown rating will be 500*PI (1.57 kV). Since the off transistor will have a reverse bias of a few volts on it's base it's breakdown voltage will (typically) be a few hundred volts greater than it's Vceo spec. The 2sc4634/4636 would suffice.