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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 16:26:52 -0400
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 15:49:05 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/27/2025 1:25 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 3/27/2025 7:15 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. 
>>>>>> You obviously don't believe that, 
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you now 
>>>> seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than 
>>>> walking. Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value 
>>>> from special protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those 
>>>> two points seem inconsistent.
>>>>
>>>> So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views?
>>>
>>> My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra 
>>> protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need.
>> 
>> That explains your personal choice, based on your "view" and your 
>> "feel." But that doesn't explain your statement "I've always counseled 
>> people riding on public roadways or riding for performance to wear 
>> helmets." In fact, "Don't wear them if you don't feel that need" sounds 
>> quite opposite.
>
>It goes like this:
>"I almost always wear a helmet. If you're riding in traffic or for 
>performance I would advise you to also, but it's your choice".
>
>No contradiction there at all.
>
>> I often discuss actual data when I see that people's "feelings" are 
>> belied by good data. That doesn't mean you're not allowed to wear what 
>> you like. But it is certainly true that some personal ideas and 
>> "feelings" are objectively incorrect.
>
>You've interpreted data to support your position, I've interpreted data 
>to support mine. The difference is that I'm right :)

Everybody's right, but nobody cares.

--
C'est bon
Soloman