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On 7/24/24 4:45 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/24/2024 3:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> But truth bearer has another meaning.
>> The more correct terminology is anyway
>> truth maker, you have to shift away the
>>
>> focus from the formula and think it is
>> a truth bearer, this is anyway wrong,
>> since you have two additional parameters
>> your "True" and your language "L".
>>
>> So all that we see here in expression such as:
>>
>> [~] True(L, [~] A)
>>
>> Is truth making, and not truth bearing.
>> In recent years truth making has received
>> some attention, there are interesting papers
>> concerning truth makers. And it has
>>
>> even a SEP article:
>>
>> Truthmakers
>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truthmakers/
>>
>> A world of truthmakers?
>> https://philipp.philosophie.ch/handouts/2005-5-5-truthmakers.pdf
>>
>> olcott schrieb:
>>
>>> The key difference is that we no long use the misnomer
>>> "undecidable" sentence and instead call it for what it
>>> really is an expression that is not a truth bearer, or
>>> proposition in L.
> 
> A truth-bearer is any expression of language that can
> be true or false. Self-contradictory expressions are not
> truth bearers.
> 
> 

And thus you accept that Goldbach's conjecture is a truth-bearer, even 
if it can't be proven.

Which means your other definition of truth-bearers can't be correct, and 
you are just shown to be a liar.