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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 07:01:09 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <c4db8c4e924fd1c7ff371d8eb51db362@www.novabbs.com> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <ceff4cd0-7f16-0f42-588b-374e89acf00c@example.net> <vcfq1i$8o8k$2@dont-email.me> <eef9e921-3ea3-76ee-39de-e34ac66733e4@example.net> <vcvu4d$3hnv8$1@dont-email.me> <vd1td8$3qtr8$1@dont-email.me> <3ace1b93-9c34-9abb-844b-c83a66d767d5@example.net> <A5eJO.114346$15a6.92744@fx12.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3679095"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="5sGkkzIbbdADfSo2vvlQSyy6vQkiKbuCRuGoclDdANg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 80dce3cebe7cf4e7a35bf1a47824d0d58e41b1b7 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$coCUkc0LFCLs6WutQKf5/OKW2zMTdi1lI.aq8XnyQKgyk6jpNdfCW Bytes: 2901 Lines: 35 On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 14:21:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Leaving that aside, nuclear and hydro alone cannot supply sufficient > energy to replace the energy provided by fossil fuels at the historic > energy growth of 2.3% per annum. Indeed, that's an exponential growth > that will eventually hit a sharp and sudden upward curve which leads > to all kinds of knock-on issues (scarcity, waste heat, etc.). Consider > that if energy use growth continues at 2.3% per annum, in 400 years > the waste heat alone from energy generation will cause the earths > average surface temperature to exceed the boiling point of water[*]. > Absurd, > perhaps, to assume that that growth rate is sustainable, but there you > are. Maintaining an exponential growth rate in energy consumption is indeed impossible, and that would remain true even if we had fusion power. Hydro has the drawback of only being available in locations where the geography is suitable. Wind and solar consume a lot of land per unit of energy produced. Therefore, in the *short run*, if one wishes to reduce fossil fuel use, but also wishes to have lots of energy available - say to support heavy industry for fighting wars - nuclear energy seems to be the no-carbon way to produce energy that won't run aground on obvious political obstacles. Of course we will eventually need to learn to live sustainably on a static level of energy consumption. However, it will take some time to do that. For one thing, world peace will have to be achieved first. Hence, planning how to survive in the near and intermediate term seems to me to be not without value. John Savard