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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: Ginsberg's Rorschach poetry
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:43:00 +0000
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General Zod wrote:
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoerotic_poetry
>
>> *****************************
>
>> Homoerotic poetry is a genre of poetry implicitly dealing with same-sex
>> romantic or sexual interaction. The male-male erotic tradition
>> encompasses poems by major poets such as Abu Nuwas, Michelangelo, Walt
>> Whitman, Federico García Lorca, W. H. Auden, Fernando Pessoa and Allen
>> Ginsberg. In the female-female tradition, authors may include those such
>> as Sappho, "Michael Field", "Marie-Madeleine" and Maureen Duffy. Other
>> poets wrote poems and letters with homoerotic overtones toward
>> individuals, such as Emily Dickinson to her sister-in-law Susan
>> Huntington Gilbert.
>
>> English poetry
>
>> Sonnet 20
>> The most prominent example in the English language and in the Western
>> canon is that of Sonnet 20 by William Shakespeare. Though some critics
>> have made efforts to preserve Shakespeare's literary credibility by
>> claiming his work to be non-erotic in nature, no critic has disputed
>> that the majority of Shakespeare's sonnets concern explicitly male-male
>> love poetry. The only other Renaissance artist writing in English to do
>> this was the poet Richard Barnfield, who, in The Affectionate Shepherd
>> and Cynthia, wrote homoerotic poetry. Barnfield's poems, furthermore,
>> are now widely accepted as a major influence upon Shakespeare's.[1]
>
>> In the twentieth century, W. H. Auden and Allen Ginsberg became well
>> known as poets. In Great Britain the pederast Ralph Chubb lived in
>> poverty and produced his own books in limited editions made from
>> illustrated engravings (similar to methods employed by William Blake),
>> which he then erased.[citation needed]
>
>> During the 19th century the British gay poet Digby Mackworth Dolben was
>> little known; however, in the last decade Lord Alfred Douglas produced a
>> major volume of Dolben's homoerotic poems (1896) published in Paris,
>> written in both English and French translations after the trial of Oscar
>> Wilde for homosexual offences brought about largely by Wilde's love for
>> Douglas. Wilde in De Profundis, a poem about his prison experiences
>> which broke him and led to his death in 1900 in Paris, produced an
>> enduring poem. At the same time A. E. Housman gave voice to gay feelings
>> of fear and guilt in a still-criminalized situation in his A Shropshire
>> Lad (1896). In the twentieth century Noël Coward wrote witty gay poems
>> while the magician Aleister Crowley wrote works in English.[citation
>> needed]
>
>> The British savant Anthony Reid created the largest male homosexual
>> anthology of poems: The Eternal Flame (2 volumes, 1992–2002) which he
>> worked on for nearly fifty years; publication of the second volume was
>> held up by the publisher going bankrupt. The Canadian gay poet Ian Young
>> produced the first major bibliography with his works The Male Homosexual
>> in Literature (2 editions, the second being expanded). The Australian
>> gay poet Paul Knobel's CD-ROM 'An Encyclopedia of Male Homosexual Poetry
>> and its Reception History' (2002) is the largest survey of the subject
>> and comes to one million words with overviews covering over 250
>> languages and language groups. He has also published A World Overview of
>> Male Homosexual Poetry (2005). Gregory Woods has produced other studies,
>> including a history of gay literature with some reference to
>> poetry.[citation needed]
>
>> The period since gay liberation (from 1968) has produced dozens of gay
>> poetry anthologies (e.g. 2 edited by Ian Young alone and others by
>> Winston Leyland producer of the gay lib periodical Gay Sunshine, which
>> included poetry); this has mainly been the result of the increasing
>> decriminalisation of gay sex in the Anglo world (male homosexual acts
>> were decriminalized in France in the late 18th century and in Italy in
>> the late 19th). Notable United States gay poets include Dennis Cooper,
>> Gavin Dillard, John Gill, Dennis Kelly, Tom Meyer, Paul Monette, Harold
>> Norse and Jonathan Williams. Rob Jacques has written about the
>> relationship between love and violence in the military.[2] Jamse S.
>> Holmes was a leather poet who emigrated to Amsterdam. Daryl Hine from
>> Canada and David Herkt and Paul Knobel from Australia have written fine
>> gay poems. New Zealand has a vibrant gay culture and has produced some
>> gay poets. The Canadian gay poet Edward A. Lacey was run over in the
>> street while drunk in Bangkok; repatriated to Canada, he remained
>> bedridden until his death. His complete poems were only published in the
>> early 21st century. The British poet Thom Gunn lived in the United
>> States and wrote a notable volume inspired by AIDS (which has produced
>> several anthologies)
>
>> *******************************

You nailed it again, Zod.