Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: joes <noreply@example.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies
 non-terminating behavior to HHH
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:00:59 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Message-ID: <c72f76bc7ab88cae79667bec683559dadc1f9c18@i2pn2.org>
References: <vo6420$3mpmf$1@dont-email.me> <vo7be3$jug$1@dont-email.me>
	<vo7r8d$36ra$3@dont-email.me> <vo9ura$i5ha$1@dont-email.me>
	<voahc5$m3dj$8@dont-email.me> <vocdo9$14kc0$1@dont-email.me>
	<vocpl7$16c4e$4@dont-email.me> <vof56u$1n9k0$1@dont-email.me>
	<vofnj2$1qh2r$2@dont-email.me> <vohrmi$29f46$1@dont-email.me>
	<vojs0e$2oikq$4@dont-email.me> <vokdha$2rcqi$1@dont-email.me>
	<vom1fr$34osr$1@dont-email.me> <von0iq$3d619$1@dont-email.me>
	<vondj5$3ffar$1@dont-email.me> <vonhl6$3g196$1@dont-email.me>
	<voojt4$3mdke$5@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:00:59 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
	logging-data="136782"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
	posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM";
User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a
 git.gnome.org/pan2)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
Bytes: 3351
Lines: 38

Am Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:33:55 -0600 schrieb olcott:
> On 2/14/2025 7:49 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 14.feb.2025 om 13:40 schreef olcott:
>>> On 2/14/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-14 00:07:23 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 04:21:34 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>> On 2/12/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 14:41:38 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course not. However, the fact that no reference to that
>>>>>>>>>> article before or when HHH
>>>>>>>>> That paper and its code are the only thing that I have been
>>>>>>>>> talking about in this forum for several years.
>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter when you don't say that you are talking about that
>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>> Anyway, that is irrelevant to the fact that the subject line
>>>>>>>> contains a false claim.
>>>>>>> It is a truism and not one person on the face of the Earth can
>>>>>>> possibly show otherwise.
>>>>>> The fact that the claim on subject line is false is not a truism.
>>>>>> In order to determine the claim is false one needs some knowledge
>>>>>> that is not obvious.
>>>>> When you try to show the steps attempting to show that it is false I
>>>>> will point out the error.
>>>> Step 1: Find people who know C.
>>>> Step 2: Show them DD of OP and ask.
>>>>
>>>>> This is the only topic that I will discuss and any
>>> DD  correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally.
>> Indeed. The simulation by HHH fails to reach the end of the halting DD.
> different instance with provably different execution trace
Come on. All instances of a deterministic program behave the same.

>> This shows that it is a bad idea to use a simulator to decide about
>> halting/non-halting behaviour.
-- 
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.