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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:34:13 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <c8e99a20769f01b994329c64d58090e8c21a3486@i2pn2.org> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <v60dci$1ib5p$1@dont-email.me> <v60red$1kr1q$2@dont-email.me> <v61hn7$1oec9$1@dont-email.me> <v61ipa$1og2o$2@dont-email.me> <v61jod$1oec9$2@dont-email.me> <v61leu$1p1uo$1@dont-email.me> <dd109397687b2f8e74c3e1e3d826772db8b65e40@i2pn2.org> <v62i31$21b7a$1@dont-email.me> <v632ta$23ohm$2@dont-email.me> <v63jej$26loi$6@dont-email.me> <v63s4h$28goi$2@dont-email.me> <v63s92$28dpi$3@dont-email.me> <e7e50b27b2f0df2cbd65f7dbafa975f597b8ce78@i2pn2.org> <v665vj$2oun1$11@dont-email.me> <a9f31a178ec10c3a25aa7e03c2574cb3ad01d1c9@i2pn2.org> <v6688q$2pc84$1@dont-email.me> <c1f8cd395cbc33748f6b82112a1a26fe5df15da1@i2pn2.org> <v66gqc$2qr6f$2@dont-email.me> <83a2ddb381b16ac04f10a99c0420bbf61e32fbed@i2pn2.org> <v66ikm$2r26d$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:34:13 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2138841"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3613 Lines: 41 Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:29:10 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 7/4/2024 11:24 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:58:03 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 7/4/2024 10:03 AM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 08:32:10 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 7/4/2024 8:09 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:53:07 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> On 7/4/2024 6:09 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 10:55:14 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2024 10:52 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Similarly, if you think that HHH can simulate itself correctly, >>>>>>>>>> you are wrong. >>>>>>>>>> int H(ptr p, ptr i); >>>>>>>>>> int main() >>>>>>>>>> { >>>>>>>>>> return H(main, 0); >>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>> You showed that H returns, but that the simulation thinks it >>>>>>>>>> does not return. >>>>>>>>> main correctly emulated by H never stops running unless aborted. >>>>>>>> As a matter of fact, H does abort it. H then returns to main, >>>>>>>> which then stops running. >>>>>>> main correctly simulated by H never returns. >>>>>> I was talking about main itself. >>>>> That is not the one that HHH examines. >>>> Huh? HHH examines main. Sure, it doesn’t /simulate/ the return. > The x86utm operating system spawns a separate process so that > H can emulate another different instance of D in this separate process. > H must call DebugTrace() > to switch process contexts to emulate one more instruction of D. Oh, there should also be different instances of H. >>> There is more than one main() process. One of them cannot possibly >>> halt and the other one halts. >> That makes no sense. They have exactly the same code. > It makes no sense only if you are totally clueless of operating system > process contexts. What is their difference? -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.