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Path: ...!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Rider <soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Patching TPU innertube Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:17:06 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <c8k8njlsmdqutvve5hu9ro6isuv46v5psu@4ax.com> References: <vkmrlc$3ojrh$1@dont-email.me> <vkmtht$30kur$6@dont-email.me> <vknoel$3vnnn$1@dont-email.me> <vkpdch$ee99$1@dont-email.me> <vkq1v6$iqtc$5@dont-email.me> <vkue72$1lih3$3@dont-email.me> <vkvr69$22g80$2@dont-email.me> <lpc7nj1u4mdohl4gtcfmq61t4ck7gtnk3t@4ax.com> <qie7njl61cbs8p2d0sf2v77s56ugeevrrt@4ax.com> <v2l7nj1on1o0883d4t6bn0h8619sra5bbq@4ax.com> <vl1bf1$2b5ff$1@dont-email.me> <raf8njtonh2v2qfh7l4i4kjj098fu06e5d@4ax.com> <vl1i24$2cimt$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:17:07 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6420c8696f09d229218330524550bbd2"; logging-data="2517825"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/m4SU57nNsFN1fqXgL23qe4e8zIGT6EiA=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:MClSq8O4jzteVO4lpsK5laDVJDw= Bytes: 3985 On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:52:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 12/31/2024 1:22 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:00:00 -0500, Frank Krygowski >> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 12/31/2024 6:25 AM, Catrike Rider wrote: >>> Then, each of them donned dark >>> goggles so they couldn't distinguish the instruments by sight and tested >>> out these top fiddles in two 75-minute sessions, one in a small room and >>> one in a 300-seat auditorium. >> (...) >>> If you read that before, you should have taken notes when reading "75 >>> minute sessions" and "300-seat auditorium." >> >> Note that there were TWO 75 minute sessions. I know little about >> string instruments, but I assume that they are much like playing a >> piano, with which I'm more familiar. I need about 5 minutes to become >> accustomed to the keyboard and 10 additional minutes to "warm up" >> which is mostly loosening the finger muscles. However, playing the >> remaining 60 minutes, in one sitting, seems rather excessive, >> especially without intermission: >> <https://www.hellosimply.com/blog/piano-culture/piano-recital/> >> Besides an intermission, some time should be allocated for the >> musician to tune his violin and apply the necessary rosin. >> >> Do you have a link to the source of this test? This seems to be your >> source: >> <https://www.science.org/content/article/elite-violinists-fail-distinguish-legendary-violins-modern-fiddles> >> It's behind a paywall but is easily bypassed. There doesn't seem to >> be any new information on the testing details. So, I go to the >> source: >> "Soloist evaluations of six Old Italian and six new violins" >> <https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1323367111> >> Same except in PDF format: >> <https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1323367111?download=true> >> It will take me a while to find time to dig through that article. Also >> see the Supporting Info at: >> <https://www.pnas.org/action/downloadSupplement?doi=10.1073%2Fpnas.1323367111&file=pnas.201323367si.pdf> >> Offhand and from skimming, it looks like they did the best that would >> be done with the time and instrument limitations. >> >> One interesting comment from the article: >> "I played the Avery Fisher Stradivarius for 6 years," she says, "and >> it took me 3 years just to get accustomed to it." >> >> > >Well, it's important to consider that The Experts are never >wrong about cycling lane position or about separated paths >but they know nothing about musical instruments. What's so special about being a former spurt?