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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Shadow <Sh@dow.br> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Facebook Account Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:02:43 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Shadow Lines: 121 Message-ID: <c92iijdf49p2kup0gk47s3av6nq27i0fi6@4ax.com> References: <va5ji6$5eg$4@dont-email.me> <RKtxO.80083$1Gdb.6157@fx04.iad> <va7g3h$etpc$3@dont-email.me> <va9k0g$rpi7$3@dont-email.me> <UF3zO.994909$MC82.200598@fx17.iad> <9dmpcjhlmnob1cgoagri7cpa5fjgkq9m0b@4ax.com> <oKJzO.52698$jia4.2041@fx18.iad> <9q4vcjhaj0nti7j1p7boasakb4q86vh6qr@4ax.com> <vao6qd$3jf9v$1@dont-email.me> <ra9vcjlqq3s4cfou45131sj1cafc266ir6@4ax.com> <vaoa3r$3l430$1@dont-email.me> <v8q0djdctmcl2s4n7c7f5jhno9abt0afq6@4ax.com> <jnSVO.336351$kxD8.179760@fx11.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 19:02:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ac9f0991743edd84a3e9ba468859d5b5"; logging-data="1128472"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19rQKLZW/dALMrp2QEbanVA+dj7hxaM+z4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:pyU+59hhpfCXThJI2aFxL2yYjgY= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Bytes: 6311 On Sun, 03 Nov 2024 21:59:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Thu Aug 29 09:41:51 2024 Shadow wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >>> I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has >> >>> grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might >> >>> say diametrically different) administrations: >> >> >> >> "Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no >> >> benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, >> >> eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time. >> >> Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road >> >> sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a >> >> month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup. >> >> The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour >> >> week. >> >>> >> >>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/ >> >> Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details.... >> Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription. >> >>> >> >>> Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present >> >>> administration, similar to the US regime effect: >> >>> >> >>> https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram >> >> Very similar to the US. >> >>> >> >>> Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker >> >>> currency effect; shown in USD): >> >>> >> >>> https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL >> >> Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the >> same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years. >> 2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be >> even better. >> Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the >> coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had >> COVID. >> >> If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this >> #FAKE_NEWS article: >> >> <https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/> >> >> ... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they >> get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates.... >> >> (I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear). >> >>> >> >>> [click 'line chart' and 'exports'] >> >>> >> >>> So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so >> >>> perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I >> >>> don't know that. >> >> >> >> Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was >> >> "privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over >> >> 6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left >> >> behind. Around 95% of our GNP. >> >> But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and >> >> our poverty is diminishing. >> >> I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I >> >> check them out on Linux tomorrow. >> >> Done... >> >> TY >> >> []'s >> > >> >Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs >> >standard definitions for comparison. > >I try to be kind to youy but you keep making it hard. > >The GDP barely rose at all from 2020 to the present Just this year, under Lula, the GNP rose over 3%. Lula only became President in 2023, so you can hardly blame 2020 on him.... We are suffering something akin to the USA, trying to recover from the mistakes made by the previous administration. It'll take decades. >and at this same time excess spending and wild eyed printing of money caused an inflation rate of nearly 20%. And inflation is the lowest since the right wing coup. Unemplyment is at a record low too. >This difference in growth of GDP and inflation ended up with about a effective loss of GDP of 15%. > >This is as bad as your claims that there has been no increase in ultra-rapid growth cancers that show almost immediately at stage 4. I think sms's post clarified that there is no such thing as a "turbo cancer". > >https://youtu.be/>snip> > >I understand if all of the things that have been happening since the election fraud that put the Democrats >in charge Funny, that's the same argument Bolsoaro used here. Every single inquiry showed he lied. He just wanted to be dictator. Well, he's waiting trial ATM. >is scaring people so that they want to deny it. But this is a discussion and we have >to at least try and be honest. In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency. In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right. I take it you are one of the Nazi supporters. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 Google Fuchsia - 2021