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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:52:13 +0700
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 04:39:31 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 21:40:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On 8/13/2024 4:33 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:19:25 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 8/13/2024 4:00 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 23:25:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/12/2024 9:23 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:16:42 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> three minute video
>>>>>>>> https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mob-of-teens-violently-assault-man-break-his-leg-in-downtown-los-angeles/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet more justification for carrying a gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you think that's any of your business?
>>>> It's a discussion group. Why does that fact baffle you so?
>>> 
>>> You have a habit of demanding personal information that goes beyond
>>> the realm of discussion. Like I said, I know why you do it. You want
>>> information about people so you can use it against them. 
>>
>>In this instance, "Use it against them" seems to be your code for 
>>"pointing out that their own behavior is at odds with their fervently 
>>stated opinions." I don't think that is unreasonable to note in a 
>>_discussion_ group.
>
>I comment on your behavior in this group. For instance, you ignorantly
>argued that a person not owning a certain kind of firearm as a reason
>it should be banned.
>
>>> But the question remains, why do you think whether or not someone
>>> carries a gun is your business?
>>
>>Because John chose to post "yet more justification" on a public 
>>_discussion_ group. Again, if he didn't want this matter discussed, he 
>>should not have posted about it. Why is that point so confusing to you?
>
>Apparently, you actually believe you have a right to demand personal
>information. It's no wonder that you are not popular among your real
>life peers. I wouldn't want you on any commitee I was associated with.
>
>>>> If a person doesn't want their practices, habits, opinions and quirks
>>>> discussed, they should stop typing.
>>> 
>>> The stated issue was about a reason for carrying a gun. It was an
>>> opinion and I could understand someone asking to elaborate on the
>>> opinion, but that's not what you did.
>>> 
>>>> Which leads me to note that you frequently state your opinion on matters
>>>> that don't affect you in the least. The latest example was riders in
>>>> matching jerseys.
>>> 
>>> Did I ask anyone if they wore matching jerseys?  No, I simply made a
>>> general comment about seeing people in matching jerseys..  much like
>>> the comment above about a reason for carrying a gun.
>>
>>Right, you didn't ask us about jersey wearing. You just made a snide 
>>general comment about people who choose to wear matching jerseys, based 
>>on your assumption about their motive, of which you disapprove.
>
>Yes, I expressed my opinions about that. Note that I didn't demand to
>know if you wear matching jerseys on your group rides, because that's
>none of my business and I really don't care what kind of jersey you
>wear. Why would I care? Why would you care if he sometimes carries a
>gun?
>
>>> I may comment on what I see other people do, or on things that they've
>>> told me, but otherwise, I don't demand personal information from
>>> others. I think that's a really sicko thing to do.	
>>> 
>>>> Why do you think what they wear is any of your business?
>>> 
>>> <LOL> It's not any of my business.
>>> 
>>> I think you're too deep into your obsessions to see the difference
>>> between commenting on what someone sees, and demanding information
>>> beyond what's seen.
>>
>>Are you pretending you didn't demand information from me with your "why 
>>do you ..." statements? Give me a break!
>
>I comment on your narcissistic behavior in this newsgroup.  I've
>commented on your undocumented bragging, which, I note, you seem to
>have toned down quite a bit.
>
>>I think you're splitting hairs because John's behavior belies his 
>>pro-gun arguments. And you (and he) detest any posts that point out the 
>>problems inherent in your gun fetishes.
>
><EYEROLL> My Gawd, you actually believe you're scoring points... I
>suspect quite the opposite is the case... that he's like me and gets a
>kick out of triggering your repetitive, obsessive, anti-gun rants,
>which I don't believe has convinced anyone to soften their stance on
>the issue. In fact, we're planning a visit to Wisconsin soon and I'm
>thinking of borrowing my daughter's AR15 and doing some target
>shooting with it. I've never shot a pistol grip rifle and all the
>hoopla about them has made me curious. 
>
>So, I'll put the popcorn on and let's see some of your obsessive
>anti-gun rants.

Well, lets see here. As of July 2023 you can legally catty a gin in
the state of Florida so basically Frankie is waving his arms and
shrieking about something that is perfectly legal where you live.

In fact, as of June 2020 citizens of Ohio who can legally possess a
firearm may carry it concealed.
https://outsidethebadge.com/ohio-constitutional-carry/
So our boy is arguing against a perfectly legal act both the state
that you live in but also the state that he lives in.

And Ohio changed their law to allow carrying a gun a year before
Florida.

As someone put it, "Clean your own house before you tell me how to
clean mine"

-- 
Cheers,

John B.