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On 04/02/2025 12:57 PM, Aether Regained wrote:
> rhertz:> In 1930 Wolfgang Pauli  proposed the existence of the neutrino
> (named in
>> 1933 by Fermi) to solve the violation of energy conservation in beta
>> decay (when a neutron turns into a proton and emits an electron).
>> Scientists observed that the emitted electrons had varying energies,
>> rather than a fixed value as expected. The neutrino was ALLEGEDLY
>> detected experimentally by Cowan and Reines in 1956.
>>
>> The missing energy varied from 0.1 to 0.2 eV (millions of times lower
>> than electrons at rest). Pauli assumed that neutrinos might be massless,
>> like photons, and this kept in the '70s, with the Standard Model
>> (1970s). Analysis from Solar Neutrinos (1960s–2001) suggested that
>> neutrinos oscillate, wich (de Broglie) require mass.
>>
>> Up to date, the neutinos mass is UNKNOWN. As neutrinos proved to be the
>> JOKER CARD of particle physics, different types of neutrino emerged
>> since its invention TO JUSTIFY the conservation of energy. All three of
>> them were asigned a spin of 1/2 in the Standard Model, only for
>> equations involving SMEP charged particles. They are; Electron neutrino
>> (< 2.2 eV), Muon neutrino (< 0.17 eV) and Tau neutrino (< 15.5 MeV). The
>> energies ARE STILL NOT KNOWN (so their mass, IF THEY HAVE IT AT ALL).
>>
>
> In psychology there is a well documented phenomenon, in which a
> perpetrator accuses others of the very sin he is guilty of.
>
> Pauli is the classic example of this. He was the one who coined the
> term: "NOT EVEN WRONG" to describe a theory that could not be falsified.
> In hindsight we see that it was his coping mechanism or a preemptive
> measure he took, so others didn't accuse him of being "NOT EVEN WRONG"
> with his unfalsifiable neutrino theory.
>

Yeah, it's usually called "projection".

Pauli was a pragmatist, as a physicist he wasn't much of a philosopher,
sort of a narrow view. The Pauli principle of course is part and parcel
of particle physics, since they aren't points and not perfect,
then I read that he was rather irascible and not very congenial,
then that his interactions as much discouraged others as made
any sorts positive contributions himself.

Or, after Pauli principle and Pauli/Dirac formalism and that,
he's mostly "not even wrong", ....

Neutrino theory isn't unfalsifiable, something like "virtual photons"
are quite worse, while of course "dark matter and energy" are pretty
much having falsified a usual sort theory with such type things.


I.e., one can re-write QED with a different mechanism and it could
be just as explanatory as "virtual photons", and, they don't have
the usual accoutrement of virtual particle auto-annihilation that
makes other kinds of virtual particles falsifiable, and, the
crisis in cosmology is a rather poor charade.

Anyways I'd like to think that Pauli had at least one good idea,
since otherwise Pauli principle is just a rather simple excluded middle,
in geometry, then otherwise he's more guilty of dumbing
down the discussion than being memorable for something greater,
it's not really that relevant, though for example I point to
Pauli principle for what it is and Pauli/Dirac a usual formalism.

There are others that suffice for the same things, ....


There's projection then there's also a sort of reverse projection,
though that's sort of more the passive than the active, say.


Anyways neutrinos are definitely a thing and the crisis in
cosmology is definitely a thing, and most people don't give
two cares about it, and most's opinions aren't worth two cents.