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From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Past TO post links
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On Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:10:10 -0800, Rufus Ruffian <ru@ru.ru> wrote:

>jillery wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 17:48:10 +0000, Martin Harran
>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> >On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:26:55 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Now that google isn't archiving Newsgroups how do we link back to =
past=20
>> >>posts? I used to always use the google address for a post because it=
 was=20
>> >>easy to get it, but that hasn't been possible after Google stopped=20
>> >>supporting newsgroups.
>> >
>> >You can still link to old posts, I've given two links in reply to you
>> >just a few minutes ago.  GG still exists as an archive, just search
>> >for the relevant post and click on the 3 dots beside it to get the
>> >link.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Given GG's infamous ability to repeatedly break their search engine,
>> it's likely that doing a successful search now is still the challenge.
>>=20
>>=20
>> >>I've tried to find how eternal september could do it, but they do =
not=20
>> >>seem to have a feature to provide the post address like google had.
>> >>
>> >>Ron Okimoto
>>=20
>>=20
>> ES is a Usenet server.  To the best of my knowledge, none of them
>> provide search utilities.
>
>Correct, you can only query your NSP server by Message ID.
>
>Usenet has its own protocol and port, NNTP / Port 119.  It doesn't use
>HTTP or URLs.  There is no framework within NNTP by which to search.  ES
>and other NSPs do not use "post addresses", they go by Message IDs.  The
>best you can do without a searchable archive site, like GG, is to
>download a shitload of messages or message headers and search within
>your newsreader.
>
>In Agent and some other newsreaders, you can double-click on a MID and
>it will fetch the post.  This won't help you unless you already know the
>MID.  You can find upthread MIDs in the References: header, which may
>occasionally help.


That's what I do.  Given how cheap disk storage has become, archiving
text locally is trivial, and using Agent's text search is very
powerful.

--=20
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge