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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 0:13:13 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 18:07:50 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
> "HarryLime" wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:51:59 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 15:52:18 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 13:38:34 +0000, MichaelMonkey Peabrain aka
>>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 19:41:04 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's okay, Pendragon, but I think George Dance has some things to say
>>>>>> about the poem, since George Dance was the person who mentioned MFH in
>>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH and HAND.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on George's reaction to the previous comments of my colleague, Dr.
>>>>> NancyGene and myself, I should think that he would want to stick a "No
>>>>> Trespassing" sign on his father's lawn.
>>>
>>> I see HarryLiar is still miffed that I called the comments of him and
>>> "Dr." NastyGoon psychobabble (which is why he's started calling our
>>> psychoanalysis of him "psychobabble"),

Neither one is qualified to make a diagnosis of any kind, physical or
mental.

And so it goes.

>> I honestly don't recall your having previously used the term, George.
>
> I certainly can't call you a liar for that. Both Will and I have
> commented on your selective memory.

True, Harry/Pendragon's poor memory is infamous and legendary in the
Usenet newsgroup archives.

> But that of course belongs in the
> "Psycho-epistemology" thread; you're only bringing it up here

I noticed that thread has been conveniently buried lately, perhaps it
needs a slight bump.

>> I suspect that all (me, NancyGene, and yourself) used it when we were
>> discussing your poem in the past...
>
> I seriously doubt that either "Doctor" Peabrain or "Doctor" NastyGoon
> referred to their own efforts as psychobabble.

Definitely sounds too self effacing for them to do anything like that.

>> but I really don't care enough to
>> bother looking it up.

Exactly, because the Usenet newsgroup archives will most likely prove
you wrong, Harry/Pendragon.

> Of course you don't care to look anything up before talking about it.

And then when the archived evidence is provided, Pendragon/Harry (or
Nancy Gene) simply shuts the fuck up about it until it "goes away."

> But that, too, belongs on the "Psycho-Epistemology" thread.

Indeed, that thread is currently buried.

No surprise there.

>> I'm calling yours "psychobabble" because your misuse of psychology-based
>> terms like "transference" make it clear that you have little to no
>> knowledge of the subject.

As if the armchair psychiatrists Pendragon and Nancy Gene are qualified
to make such a diagnosis.

They're not.

> Thank you for giving me something I *can* call you a liar for, Lying
> Michael. In point of fact, you were copying the term "psychobabble"
> before you accused me of misusing the term "transference" (which I may
> well be; it looks like psychological jargon for what's commonly called
> "projection")

Nailed it.

>>>> Okay, we've heard your misrepresentation, Pendragon, I said George Dance
>>>> might have something to say about his poem.

I still think this is true ^^^

>>> Of course I'd prefer that readers read my poem, and my own comments on
>>> it, rather than HarryLiar's psychobabble about it. So I'll be happy to
>>> post and talk about it again when I have time.


Excellent.

>> You're becoming as attention hungry as your Donkey, George.
>
> HarryLiar, try to make some sense. You've noted correctly that
> post-google there are hardlly any people reading aapc; I'm certainly not
> seeking "attention" for the poem from a non-existent audience.
>
> My reason for opening a new thread would be because you're constantly
> bringing up my poem in unrelated threads, as per your M.O. which I
> already noted. (As that contained a few typos), I'll copy it in here:
>
> "That's been your regular M.O. since you showed up. Whenever I try to
> have
> a conversation with Will, about anything, you jump in and start spewing
> false claims about something else, in the mistaken belief that I'd only
> have two options:
> (1) try to refute your false claims, in which case you've successfully
> disrupted the conversation; or
> (2) ignore them (in which some people might think those false claims of
> yours are actually true)."
>
>> To save time, why don't you just bump the old thread up to the top of
>> the feed?
>>
>> Rereading it requires much less time on both our parts than repeating
>> the same points that we'd made at the time.
>
> HarryLiar, no one is asking you to comment on that thread (or any of the
> other threads I've opened FTM). If you have nothing to say on the poem,
> you're more than welcome to sit that one out.
>
>
>
>> --