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From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor)
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Subject: Re: What is a photon
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 05:53:20 +0000
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:50:07 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

> Den 11.06.2025 06:27, skrev Bertitaylor:
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 22:11:04 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:59:05 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Den 05.06.2025 13:51, skrev bertitaylor:
>>>>> However we cannot find the speed of the moving Earth (or aether
>>>>> drift as
>>>>> they called it) as it is just not possible. The light speed variance
>>>>> nicely cuts out the extra plus or minus distances travelled.
>>>>> This is rather subtle, so requires some deep thinking.
>>>>
>>>> What does "deep thinking" mean? Is it logical thinking?
>>>> Can you show the logic that show that it is impossible
>>>> to measure the speed of the Earth in the aether?
>>
>> Done that.
>
> Don't bluff, nobody will believe you.
> You have never showed the logic that shows that it is
> impossible to measure the speed of the Earth in the aether.

Don't be silly. We have done just that. Can't repeat to dimwits.
Woof woof, what absurd fools these dull apes be!  Can't even understand
simple English and the simplest maths!
>
> If EM-radiation is a wave in an aether, it would be as easy
> to measure the speed of Earth relative to the aether,
> as it is to measure the speed of an aeroplane relative to the air.

No. it is impossible, for reasons explained many a time, and once again
below. For note,  aether is solid not gaseous like air. For another, the
speed of the aeroplane is based upon the rate of movement with respect
to the ground below it.

So if I toss a ball in a plane any way, its speed is always the same. I
cannot find the speed of the ball one way with respect to the ground.
That is because ball speed varies with the speed of the thrower. With
respect to ground, the throw in the direction of flight will be v + V
and in the other distance v - V. With respect to the ground the distance
of ball travel will be greater one way, and lower the other way. So the
time involved in the travel anyway will be the same, and nothing to do
with the speed of the ball wrt ground. But wrtg the ball in the plane
does move faster or slower depending upon direction of throw.

Similarly for light, with respect to the steady solid aether.

With light speed variant, the distances travelled by light between any
two points is never the marked out distance - it is something more or
less. However as the light speed is variant, the value will be the same
as that comes out from the equations of Maxwell relating to electric
permittivity and magnetic permeability.


Woof woof woof woof - we Arindam's cyberdogs know far better physics
than Helmoholtz, Einstein, Feynman etc. for the pretentious
follower-apes are such fools.

Bertietaylor


>
>> See all we post here. When you realise that all moves, no
>> inertial frame with respect to aether, then you will realise that what
>> MMX et al show is light speed variance.
>
> The MMX shows that the speed of light is isotropic in all
> inertial frames.
> It says nothing about what the speed of light is, and if it
> is the same in all frames of reference.
>
> That's why the the KTX was performed.
> https://paulba.no/paper/Kennedy_Thorndike.pdf
>
> However, waves in a medium is anisotropic in all inertial
> frames but the one that is stationary relative to the medium.
>
> So MMX shows that light is not a wave in the aether.

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