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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Riding after heavy manual labor
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 20:58:25 -0700
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On Fri, 31 May 2024 23:18:03 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Bags are made out of synthetic material that doesn't degrade from bacterial action on grass. Power washing would cause more damage than it prevented. I don't believe you live in a house because of your stupid statements. I think that you live in a condo and the home owners association contracts the yard work out.

I phoned a former customer who happens to own a landscaping (and
office cleaning) business.  He told me that he rarely used bags on his
lawn mowers.  Bagging costs too much time and the landscaping
customers don't want to pay for it.  I that with some Googling:

<https://www.lawnsite.com/threads/how-many-use-a-bagging-system.205535/?post_id=2021817&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-2021817>
"We only bag maybe 5% of our places..."

<https://www.lawnsite.com/threads/how-many-use-a-bagging-system.205535/?post_id=2021360&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-2021360>
"It wouldn't be so bad if customers were willing to pay an extra
$15-$20 per 1/4 acre lot to have it bagged, it may sound outrageous
but to me that's how much I would have to get to make it worth while.
After dumping it in the trailer I still have to unload it, but
assuming I can dump it in the woods on their property still ought to
cost at least $10 but really $15, it is that much work. Unfortunately
the most I've ever had customers willing to pay for it is 5 bucks, and
that is the gist of it."

<https://www.lawnsite.com/threads/how-many-use-a-bagging-system.205535/?post_id=2022489&nested_view=1&sortby=oldest#post-2022489>
"I only put the baggers on the mowers in the fall and early spring for
cleanups, and leaf removal. Too much hassle in the summer"

From one my previous rants (I'm too lazy/tired to dig out the URL):

>>>Looking at your house using Google Earth Pro, your front yard is mostly driveway and isn't large enough to require a motorized lawn mower.  Most of your back yard is a concrete patio.  Using the measuring tool on Google Earth Pro, the front lawn is 32 x 17ft and the back is 16 x 25ft.  You would do better with a push mower and a rake.

Doing the math:
  32x17 + 16x25 = 10,880 sq-ft
An acre is 43,560 sq-ft, so your lawns would be:
  10,880 / 43,560 = 0.249
or very close to 1/4 acre.  

An square shaped 1/4 acre is 100ft x 100ft.  
"How long does it take to mow a 1 acre yard?"
<https://www.quora.com/How-long-does-it-take-to-mow-a-1-acre-yard>
"On average, with a standard 21-inch push mower, it can take anywhere
from 30 minutes to 2 hours to mow a 1-acre yard."
Therefore, your 1/4 acre yards, would take 1/4th of that estimate or
7.5 to 30 minutes to mow.  As I mentioned, you would do better with a
reel push lawn mower:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=reel+push+lawn+mower&tbm=isch>

Anyway, I still don't believe you own a lawn mower or use a mower bag.
There are too many little things wrong with your story.

Instead of pretending you have a lawn mower, maybe a hybrid would get
you more attention:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+lawn+moser&tbm=isch>


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