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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Defining a correct simulating halt decider Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 15:57:16 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <cb6a625f1737dafed130e2bdad14395d95566ba1@i2pn2.org> References: <vb4plc$2tqeg$1@dont-email.me> <vb6o5t$3a95s$1@dont-email.me> <vb71a3$3b4ub$4@dont-email.me> <vbbmuc$8nbb$1@dont-email.me> <vbcbe4$bdtb$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 15:57:16 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="961061"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2259 Lines: 30 Am Thu, 05 Sep 2024 08:24:20 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 9/5/2024 2:34 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-09-03 13:00:50 +0000, olcott said: >>> On 9/3/2024 5:25 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-09-02 16:38:03 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> A halt decider is a Turing machine that computes the mapping from >>>>> its finite string input to the behavior that this finite string >>>>> specifies. >>>> >>>> A halt decider needn't compute the full behaviour, only whether that >>>> behaviour is finite or infinite. >>> >> Nice to see that you don't disagree with what said. Unvortunately I >> can't agree with what you say. >> HHH terminates, so DDD obviously terminates, too. No valid >> C interpretaion of allows DDD to continue forever after HHH jas >> terminated. > DDD emulated by HHH never reaches it final halt state. It looks like I > have to repeat this 10,000 times before anyone ever notices that I said > it at least once. We have noticed. > Show the details of how DDD emulated by HHH reaches its own machine > address 0000217f. By HHH returning, which we are guaranteed from its definition as a decider. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.