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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:47:26 +0000, Python wrote:

> Le 15/01/2025 à 20:40, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> W dniu 15.01.2025 o 19:54, Python pisze:
>>> Le 15/01/2025 à 19:45, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> ... I'am an engineer,
>>>> So I am not pretending [being] one.
>>>
>>> "One of the best logician Humanity ever had" (ah ah ah!) doesn't know
>>> that there it is perfectly possible to pretend being something AND being
>>> so as well as to pretend something AND no being so.
>>
>>
>> pretend
>> /prɪˈtɛnd/
>> verb
>> 1.
>> behave so as to make it appear that something is the case when in fact
>> it is not.
>
> My mistake! (thank you, for once you are right, I learnt something).
>
> It happens that the French verb "prétendre" (same latin roots) has a
> slightly different meaning :
>
> "Demander quelque chose, le revendiquer pour soi. prétendre (se) v.pr.
> Dire, affirmer qu'on est tel, malgré les doutes possibles." (Larousse
> dictionary)
>
> "to affirm that one is such, *despite* being doubtful"
>
> which is a little weaker than the English acception, which happens to
> be:
> "to affirm that one is such, *while* it is false".
>
> Could any native English speakers here confirm this point? That in
> English
> "to pretend to be a dog" implies that you are NOT a dog, while in French
> "prétendre être un chien" does not exclude the the subject *may be* a
> dog, even if it is doubtful.
>
> Thank you Maciej, anyway.
In 19th-century England, people spoke of having pretenses of being
someone, such as Einstein, who claimed to be a physicist. Interestingly,
the idea of having pretenses could also imply making a real attempt
rather than faking it like Einstein.