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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 06:57:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <cd01cj9askrqfmlcsqnhjpam7hp7lkdf9j@4ax.com> References: <v9ktff$3t7dn$6@dont-email.me> <v9l5dh$10a85$1@dont-email.me> <427sbjpl85qb9v28m4s8ihqj335so892n9@4ax.com> <v9l8ud$10n7l$2@dont-email.me> <o4csbjdtu8t99sjjeeijjshjs17ko4miln@4ax.com> <v9ldee$10n7m$7@dont-email.me> <v9ldkv$11ai1$2@dont-email.me> <uefubjl289nishqcq5eqdeqdj0vj0rt7t6@4ax.com> <v9o65q$1h8t3$1@dont-email.me> <0ibvbjtnogf47avmn1v8rj5sf94g9corum@4ax.com> <v9ot76$1kbqe$3@dont-email.me> <v9p194$1kr20$3@dont-email.me> <v9p23f$1kbqe$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 12:57:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d0845120f8e82e8e24780bc8151043b"; logging-data="1989237"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/XEyToJ+NQzyWE4RdvypvgormUjYRJX+w=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:X0cqrgyJbE/KiyYslRxoi5FRNUg= Bytes: 3386 On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 22:32:14 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 8/16/2024 10:18 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 8/16/2024 8:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>> >>>> Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that benefits and >>>> detriments are subjective. >>> >>> Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The benefits of >>> bicycling have been measured in terms of increased health, reduced >>> health care costs, years of life saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc. >>> I've seen and filed at least five studies that have done that, each >>> one showing that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks. >>> >>> The detriments of American gun craziness can also be measured. As just >>> one example, huge numbers of schools now hire full time security >>> guards in case some whacko with an AR attempts to enter the building. >>> The buildings themselves are now often "hardened," with various weapon >>> detecting and weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case >>> until the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick up >>> the bill for that extra security - as they do for advanced protective >>> equipment for most policing. So we all pay for the gun fetishists >>> fantasy hobby. >>> >>> It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with, say, more >>> than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security expenses they >>> generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big gun" crew is also the >>> "No new taxes" crew. They want others to pay for their play toys' >>> consequences. >>> >>> >> >> They can indeed be measured but only within preselected parameters, >> which are subjective. >> >> 'What's important?' is the first question. >Are you saying that increased spending of public funds are not >important? Really? Another dishonest Krygowski strawman argument...