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From: llp <contact@usenet.ovh>
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Subject: Re: Abus ou pas ?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 00:12:08 +0200
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yoyo <yoyo@yoyo.INVALID> composa la prose suivante:

>Le 21/06/2024 à 23:00, llp a écrit :
>> Every.body <news@free.fr.invalid> composa la prose suivante:
>> 
>>> Il se trouve que Eric M a formulé :
>>>> Le 21/06/2024 à 13:55, Paul Aubrin a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Le 21/06/2024 à 13:48, Gilbert OLIVIER a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>> Malheureusement un hurluberlu
>>>>>> certainement jaloux, bête et surement par méchanceté à réussi à force
>>>>>> d'un harcèlement constant avec une meute de lèche cul, à le dégouter au
>>>>>> point de fermer son serveur NNTP gratuit.
>>>>
>>>>> Un important fournisseur de services internet a lui aussi décidé de fermer ses
>>>>> services usenet dans que nul hurluberlu n'ait fait preuve de méchanceté, de
>>>>> harcèlement ou de jalousie. On ne sait pas quels ont été les réels motifs de
>>>>> votre gestionnaire de serveur.
>>>>
>>>> "Le serveur ferme le 22 septembre 2023, l'administrateur ayant considéré que
>>>> l'énergie nécessaire à maintenir une technologie moribonde dans un environnement
>>>> où les spams et la désinformation restent un problème grave, sans parler de la
>>>> diffamation contre sa personne et contre ses utilisateurs, devenait trop
>>>> importante et que la concertation, pourtant souvent fonctionnelle par le passé,
>>>> n'était plus respectée par certains."
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.alphanet.ch/nnrp.html>
>>>
>>> Qu'un ripoux ait fermé son rogue serveur n'est pas un évènement notable.
>> 
>> Quelques personnes sur nanau ont d'ailleurs bien cernés le personnage.
>
>(snip attaque personnelle)

Un extrait des réactions sur nanau:

   "I suspect frustration with trying to censor usenet the way he wants it."

   "I saw in the past nocem cancel messages from him that said covid-fake-news
    on them so then I thought he had an idea that he should remove thoughts not
    the same as his own from usenet."

    "He also says, Mastodon/fediverse seems to have the upper hand here
     which I think is a reference to when they took action to block views
     opposed to their own."

    "The idea that he would decide to clean usenet of what he thinks is 
     disinformation is fine if he just keeps it to his own server. Maybe other
     servers responded to his cancels but probably shouldn't have."

    "If he can't handle others having opinions different than his maybe he is
     right and it's time for him to leave for his own sake."

     "You helped put him in the spotlight by your efforts to restrict the free
      speech of others.  Your personal likes or dislikes are not representative
      of the conversing community at large.  You deliberately antagonized others
      who then went after the wrong people."
  
     "IMO the choice of whether to read or to ignore another's posts should
      rest with the reader.  It requires competence with a killfile but surely
      that is far better than censorship.  For censored discussions, we might
      as well be in a web-forum."