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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:53:15 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:40:28 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:20:29 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:10:59 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:44:56 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:43:13 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:11:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts is far, far more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on the relative 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which data set is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" verifiable data went 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to blatantly invent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed to that, regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is "finding" billions and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: "Here's _one_ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense worldwide shrinking of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, so we should ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans rising."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that his staff can't keep
>>>>>>>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had women pee on him. That
>>>>>>>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border without Congressional
>>>>>>>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both sides fund their pet
>>>>>>>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>>>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate politics with science.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr Biden could not 
>>>>>>>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on what actually 
>>>>>>>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently defying the direct 
>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another way to do it".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' provision for 
>>>>>>>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were 
>>>>>>>>> miffed at least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the drinking age in 
>>>>>>>>Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 21.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to live with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student loan forgiveness 
>>>>>>>>was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this country lags in 
>>>>>>>>education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why Musk wants to 
>>>>>>>>keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make it so - couple 
>>>>>>>>that with this asinine thought that the government shouldn't be involved 
>>>>>>>>in education, and it's no wonder American companies need to have foreign 
>>>>>>>>students.
>>>>
>>>>	Indians, Pakistanis and Russians are taking over American's
>>>>jobs And they are "legalized" by the rich guys that want to profit on
>>>>the FREE education they received in India, Pakistan, whatever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers paying off college
>>>>>>>graduates' loans. Well of course.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>	Charge it to people that have hundreds of billions of dollars.
>>>>>>They probably won't even notice.
>>>>>>	[]'s
>>>>>
>>>>>They already pay most of the income taxes...  and also, most of the
>>>>>wages.
>>>>
>>>>	Wow. And there was still enough left over to become almost
>>>>trillionaires?
>>>>	What if they paid more taxes and better wages, would they have
>>>>to scrape by with few dozen billion dollars today? Like plumbers,
>>>>truck drivers and construction workers do? Poor guys.
>>>>	[]'s
>>>
>>>Let's take their money because they've got too much? I'm not into that
>>>kind of nonesense. On the other hand, I'm all in favor of "lets take
>>>away their power and influence because they've got to much of it."
>>>That might solve a lot of problems.
>>
>>	They BUY their power and influence. They buy or own
>>newspapers, media (both social media and conventional media). They buy
>>governors congressmen, senators and religious leaders. And LOL, a
>>President.
>>	You will never take away their power just by "wishing" it.
>>	[]'s
>
>No, you legislate it away. Start by initiating term limits.

But y'all brag about being a democracy where the people elect the
leaders that they want... and now you would deny them that right?
-- 
Cheers,

John B.