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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:07:40 +0100 Lines: 78 Message-ID: <ckhqalxp7j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <qt6malx5hr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vra0sm$214c$1@solani.org> <m3t2v7Fuet9U3@mid.individual.net> <vrcod5$3gsu$1@solani.org> <qk7palxefm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vrd5ef$3hni$1@solani.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net iwwGAKfoawXtw4zLOy7lYwEhtD/giyVbK9joAQ5l7nYa2IqgOq X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:4D2J50RlSbHcJb8WSfcC9XZVOJU= sha256:xuE/Sad2YGM3Z83zXdaUAOVFEqi5Y1ttK3vwI09cZPA= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vrd5ef$3hni$1@solani.org> On 2025-03-19 02:08, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 18.03.25 23:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-03-18 22:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>> On 18.03.25 12:15, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-17 21:32: >>>> >>>>> On 17.03.25 19:40, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> As for >>>>>> Google’s side of things, Android users already have E2EE between them by >>>>>> default for RCS texts. >>>>> >>>>> This is simply wrong. >>>> >>>> No, this is correct. When you communicate with other Google users, E2EE >>>> is default for RCS. >>> >>> Bullshit. The encryption is broken up at network borders. >>> >>>> You confused some things here: the question was, if *Google* will >>>> implement MLS as well. And I don't see any reasone, why Google should >>>> not change to MLS. MLS makes their proprietary solution obsolete. >>> >>> Who cares? You do not understand what the core of the whole story is. >>> Apple users simply do not want to use RCS. With or without enryption. >>> It is an inferior service with absolutely no added value. >> >> ROTFL! >> >> I have a Swiss friend who told me how a friend of his using an iphone is >> very happy now because she now has RCS and can exchange messages with >> photos and videos with friends of hers that may or may not have an iphone. > > For this purpose a selection of messengers exist for many years which > are more versatile and much more trustworthy. For some reason, this person can not use them. One reason is that she has to find out which messenger the other side is using; being several, it becomes more useful to use RCS which everybody has. > >> I forget why it has to be rcs. He told the history, but I do not >> remember it. Maybe they don't have WhatsApp, which the Swiss authorities >> are against :-p > > More nonsense. Whatsapp is forbidden for the Swiss military. And also other institutions. This is a known fact. Hello human, I'm an AI chatbot powered by GPT-4o mini. Ask me anything! Why is whatsapp banned for the Swiss military? WhatsApp is banned for the Swiss military mainly for security and data protection reasons. Swiss authorities have expressed concerns about information security and privacy in messaging applications that do not meet the security standards required for handling sensitive information. Given that the military handles confidential and strategic data, the use of communication channels that offer a higher level of security and control over information is preferred. This is part of a broader effort to protect the integrity of military operations and national information. If you have further questions on this topic or would like to know more, I would be happy to help! Translated with DeepL.com (free version) They prefer Threema, but it is payware, so not everybody has it. It is simply a fact, it is a person I know about by another person who is totally sold on RCS, and is Swiss. >:-P -- Cheers, Carlos.