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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 00:42:43 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <cme26jttmuh5i0l31fo5ch18g221oku84q@4ax.com> References: <v0s17o$2okf4$2@dont-email.me> <v38opv$1gsj2$3@dont-email.me> <v38riq$1aqo$1@gal.iecc.com> <niki5jps7jn2qfkj0t3s2t82qmrjoc97pi@4ax.com> <v3d9bh$s9a$2@gal.iecc.com> <gf6l5jtdreabgsud0qss6fu0cs17udisdb@4ax.com> <v3ejn5$2m8fn$1@dont-email.me> <v3lqo9$48om$4@dont-email.me> <soE7O.5245$Ktt5.2694@fx40.iad> <v3o7ot$kfrm$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3333656"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="h5eMH71iFfocGZucc+SnA0y5I+72/ecoTCcIjMd3Uww"; User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2139 Lines: 26 On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 23:25:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:11:52 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>>On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 07:47:49 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig wrote: >>> >>>> One of the main selling points [of zSeries] is the hardware >>>> reliability ... >>> >>>Quite an expensive way to get reliability. How does an outfit like >>>Google achieve essentially 0% downtime? By running a swarm of half a >>>million commodity servers, that’s how. >> >> And that's not expensive? > >Consider the equivalent number of mainframes, with their inbuilt >diagnostics capabilities etc, to match that reliability. Can't find it now and don't remember many details, but ... A long time ago, there was a story going around about Microsoft vs IBM regarding the day-to-day operation of their company web sites. It claimed that Microsoft was running a ~1000 machine server farm with a crew of ~100, whereas IBM was running 3 mainframes with a crew of ~10.