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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:19:04 -0800
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:53:13 -0500, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:47:06 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>Polishing up the howitzer, are we?
>>
>> No. My use is much more mundane.  I'm looking for a universal rust
>> inhibiting spray that I can safely use on most everything.  Fluid Film
>> seems to be positioning themselves as the WD-40 of rust.  The
>> immediate problem is that I have 2 bicycles sitting outside, covered
>> with plastic, but still rusting a little.  Evapo-Rust works well for
>> removing rust from bicycle chains, but is not suitable for rust
>> prevention.  I also have a shower built from painted steel sheet
>> metal.  After about 60 years (since the house was built) the paint is
>> flaking off and the underlying steel sheet metal is rusting.  I really
>> don't need a bathroom remodel project at this time and prefer to save
>> the existing steel shower.  I also have boxes of hardware, an old
>> refrigerator that I use for storage, and steel tools that are
>> susceptible to rust.  The equipment and tools that were zinc plated or
>> covered with zinc primer before painting are holding up well. However,
>> I don't have room to build a paint spray booth or power coating oven,
>> that will be necessary to repaint everything.  For my guns, I use a
>> tacky lube, such as chain saw bar oil.
>
>I have a can of fluid film, and spray it on steel objects that are
>likely to stay outside, various bits of vehicle undersides, and so
>forth.  "Boxes of hardware" sounds like a likely application, as are
>steel tools.
>
>I believe it's essentially lanolin in some kind of volatile
>carrier.  Smells vaguely like sheep, but not as nice as a wet sweater.

I would not be surprised if the lanolin fragrance was added to the
formulation.  Long ago, I almost went to work for International
Flavors and Fragrances.  I quite when I discovered the commute was
over an hour each way.
<https://www.iff.com/scent/>
Done wrong, lanolin smells like wet dog.

>I haven't done anything scientific to test it, but it seems to do some
>good, better than WD-40.

I should hope so.  WD-40 does one thing very well.  It displaces
water.  For everything else, it's 2nd best, or equal to "mineral oil"
which is the base oil for most oil based cleaners.
"Uses of WD-40 Multi-Use Product"
<https://files.wd40.com/pdf/WD-40_Multi_Use_Product_2000_Uses_final.pdf>

>It's not a paint or permanent surface
>treatment, if it's out in the weather it will eventually wash off.  I
>don't think it would do any good in your shower unless on those parts
>that don't actually get wet very often.  It also stays a bit sticky and
>may collect dust.

If it lasts through the winter, I'll be happy.  For the shower, it
will need to last only as long as it takes for me to get setup for
repairs and painting.  It looks like the existing 1960's paint is
enamel, which is a VoC and banned in California.  I'm looking into
just ripping everything out and installing acrylic or PCV wall panels
as an alternative:
<https://www.google.com/search?num=10&q=pvc%20shower%20wall%20panels&udm=2>


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