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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Montana: "Let's make stupidity mandatory!"
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:53:18 -0500
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:17:50 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/16/2025 5:06 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 16:04:09 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/16/2025 3:51 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:15:12 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/16/2025 2:05 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 11:27:20 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/16/2025 4:39 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:28:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm reminded about a parable about a poor widow contributing two tiny
>>>>>>>>> coins, a trivial amount, but “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put
>>>>>>>>> more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their
>>>>>>>>> wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to
>>>>>>>>> live on.”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So she starved? WTF? Are you really OK with that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good point: WTF!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll bet you think the guy who told that tale should have been
>>>>>>> crucified, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief, Krygowski, you have no idea who made that story up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [raises hand]
>>>>> Uh, Mark?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-12-42/
>>>>> https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-12-43/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could be, but there's condiderable doubt.
>>>>
>>>> An early church tradition, deriving from Papias of Hierapolis
>>>> (c.60–c.130 AD),[6] regards the Gospel as based on the preaching of
>>>> Saint Peter, and written down by John Mark, who is named in the Acts
>>>> of the Apostles as a companion of Saint Peter.[7][8][9] Most critical
>>>> scholars reject this tradition, and it is generally agreed that it was
>>>> written anonymously for a gentile audience, probably in Rome, sometime
>>>> shortly before or after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70
>>>> AD.[10][b]
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark
>>>>
>>>> As for me, I don;t knoe and I don't care who wrote it. I evaluate it
>>>> on it's own standing, as I do on most everything.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
>>>
>>> Well, yes much is unknown and will most probably remain so.
>>>
>>> And we are all familiar with the most egregious translation
>>> errors in King James.
>>>
>>> But the composition, wordcraft and phrasing is fundamental
>>> to understanding English literature, without regard to
>>> history, accuracy or truth in the original.
>> 
>> I regard the Bible as a history book, but I take it all with several
>> grains of salt. It seems to me that a lot of it was written to
>> frighten people into towing the line.
>> 
>> I believe that today, Christianity is a force for good, but I base
>> that belief on what I witness, not what I'm told.
>> 
>> --
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
>
>I could argue both sides. But I don't much care.
>
>However, as literature, it is the basis of modern English, 
>printed in large numbers, for many years, especially in 
>times when other works were much less numerous nor widely 
>read. Truly, everything about English lit, and much of 
>modern English itself, traces to King James.


King James and his translators/editors.

--
C'est bon
Soloman