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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-18 (Thursday)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:51:02 -0400
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:33:18 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:09:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:56:09 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2024 7:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:38:44 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I watched another animated flick JUSTICE LEAGUE vs THE FATAL FIVE
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In this movie we have a trio of bad guys from the future travel into
>>>>>>>>> the past to free two of their group that are trapped in a prison in
>>>>>>>>> the time of the Justice League. A hero from the future also manages to
>>>>>>>>> travel into the past to stop them but he has a fatal weakness. He
>>>>>>>>> needs regular doses of a drug or else he tends to forget who he is. A
>>>>>>>>> drug that doesn't exist in the JL time. So he forgets most of his
>>>>>>>>> mission other than that there is a Fatal Five and that he needs to
>>>>>>>>> find the Limelight before getting locked away in a mental institution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it new that he’s insane? For that matter is it new that Jessica Cruz is
>>>>> insane?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know. Not familiar with either of those characters. Perhaps
>>>> they were introduced to the comics after I quit reading them. Much
>>> 
>>> Star Boy has been around since 1961. :-) Originally he had all of Superboy
>>> powers plus the ability to increase the mass of objects to get around the
>>> duplicate powers rule. Somewhere along the line, he lost the Superboy
>>> powers wiki says he’s gone through several incarnations and costume changes
>>> and race swaps. Apparently he’s been insane since the 2006 version which is
>>> well after I stopped reading the Legion.
>> 
>> Hmm, don't recall ever having heard of him. If he was just in Legion
>> books then that might explain it. 
>
>Wiki talks of storylines where he visited the 20th century, but, yeah, I
>only know him from Legion books.
>
>
>I was never a huge comic book fan as
>> I just didn't have the money to buy more than a rare comic book when I
>> was young enough to really want to read them. Then as I got older I
>> was more into reading science fiction books. So the only comics I've
>> read in decades were those that JMS joined in on.
>
>OMG I am so terribly terribly sorry. :-(
>
>> 
>>> Jessica Cruz has only been around for 10 years, long after I stopped
>>> reading the Legion. I was puzzled as to why I knew who she was until I
>>> finally recalled that someone I know cosplay as her 
>> Good reason to remember the character.
>
>Yep. That was making me crazy briefly trying to figure out why I knew this
>character, but couldn’t place her in any stories!
>
>https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw1e254ZrKl9qrrM3cWT_WiOkdH3UTK-xMRPk067VrRA&s


Again, good reason to remember. Cosplay being one of the few reasons I
would ever want to attend one of the conventions. (Not a fan of so
many people crowded into one place.)

>
>> 
>>> Wikipedia says that this was a fairly faithful version, except that it was
>>> darkseid that Smashed her ring and killed her and the ring brought her back
>>> more powerful than before
>> 
>> So if the ring can do that why didn't it do it for anyone else?
>> 
>
>The wiki is very confusing. But apparently in the original stories, the
>character has a ring that isn’t a standard issue green lantern ring, but
>either has a different source or origin, or has been changed by contact
>with previous owners.  So it was a one time thing for her that wouldn’t
>happen with the standard power ring and doesn’t really make sense when they
>grafted the events of another story and another ring onto this one.

Why does she as a new GL get a special ring?

Oh, because the writer wanted her to have a special ring even though
she clearly would have been  a newbie and not worthy of special
treatment over long time GL members like Killowog.

>
>
>
>>> 
>>>> like with Hal Jordan turning truly evil in that other animated flick.
>>>> That was never my Hal Jordan.
>>> 
>>> I actually remember that from the comics, but yeah, that was not my Hal
>>> Jordan either
>> 
>> So they actually did that in the comics? Nothing like destroying a
>> beloved character. Guess that was a new writer pissing on the ground
>> to mark his new territory.
>
>This is the classic cover
>
>https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b87cf569f4014f95ebbcdf5098db0cf0-lq
>
>This Wikipedia article explains it and who, and what was behind it, and how
>they eventually tried to walk it back, and what animated movie to avoid if
>you don’t want to see it
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Twilight?wprov=sfti1
>
>Amazingly, I actually know two of the people involved in this and I didn’t
>realize it until now.

Yeah, I saw that movie so at least they did it right in terms of
copying the comic. Not that it justifies what they did to the
character.

>
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The story then proceeds from there as the trio of bad guys proceed to
>>>>>>>>> do bad things.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'll leave the rest of the story for your enjoyment when watching the
>>>>>>>>> flick as it's a good story. There are some bits that didn't make sense
>>>>>>>>> within the story like an axe that can cut Superman but doesn't cut
>>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword but it was still an enjoyable watch.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword is magic and blessed by Hephaestus.  I guess
>>>>>>>> Hephaestus is tougher than the Persuader.  Nominally the atomic ax can cut
>>>>>>>> through anything.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, *nothing* cuts or breaks that lasso. Period!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would watch this but once again nothing is free on Apple TV. $3.99 to
>>>>>> rent, $12.99 to buy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The gray web to the rescue! Thank you, Al Gore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This was OK. It wasn’t as good as the newer stuff that I’ve praised that
>>>>> looks to be 3-D for 2-D. But it balances that out by having the older voice
>>>>> cast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m completely confused by the continuity. The justice league that had
>>>>> Supergirl certainly knew about the Legion. But these guys don’t.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I take it we actually see the end of the green lantern corp in this movie.
>>>> 
>>>> We don't know why it ends but they clearly aren't around in this
>>>> future.
>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t know who the Legion we see at the end of the movie is, but it’s
>>>>> certainly not the Legion we saw the beginning. Jessica Cruz thanks for them
>>>>> for coming to the funeral because the dead guy thought so highly of them.
>>>>> But in fact, the dead guy never would’ve met these people.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you mean? Those are among the people that he worked with.
>>> 
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