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On 12/6/24 4:11 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/24 7:17 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/12/2024 09:31, D wrote:
>>>>> There is great good and great evil in man. That's what makes him so 
>>>>> fascinating and why fighting is such a necessary sport to give an 
>>>>> outlet for all that aggression.
>>>>
>>>> Only man creates the categories of good and evil.
>>>> Science does not include them
>>>
>>> I think you know what I mean. In order to avoid nitpicking, let's say 
>>> creative and destructive energies.
>>
>>  To "Nature" ... I think it's all just superstrings hummin'
>>
>>  WE make of it all as we will.
>>
>>  Joe Alien ... he many have entirely different ideas ...
>>
> 
> I know. Natural and I have discussed this violently and agreed to 
> disagree. I'm a huge fan of the material world. As for the ultimate 
> nature, laws and composition, I am agnostic, and we'll see how far 
> science will take us. I lean towards instrumentalism/cognitive empiricism.


   IMHO, 'material' owns it - 'reality'-wise anyhow.

   However the Quality Of Life depends on what we DO with that.
   It generally stops of short agreeing to the Nietzschean extreme.

   Sci-tech will eventually take us All The Way insofar as
   power over our environment. But, again, how do we FEEL
   such power and insight be used ?

   If it was easy they'd have resolved all this 25,000
   years ago.

   The Buddha understood there was a Real World - but
   WE could never ever really see/perceive it because
   of what we were, how nature put us together, our
   native environment, our IQ range. We will always
   have a key-hole view, seeing things through
   "human-colored glasses".

   Plato's "Allegory of the cave" kinda touched on the
   same stuff - but, maybe for political reasons, left
   off the last paragraph or two.

   ANYWAY, at the cold cold root - it's just all
   superstrings hummin' ... calculating a 'reality'
   as WE can sorta perceive it. Wolfram seems to
   have grasped this.