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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 19:51:46 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <d016e11a2de50634e4b6dd14b9fe192066a00d0b@i2pn2.org> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrq330$3dq3n$1@dont-email.me> <e7268e8ef47579cacb49b0533d51549a77eb0b96@i2pn2.org> <vrqb6f$3k9kh$2@dont-email.me> <3f250e699762cfe6fccc844f10eb04f32d470b6a@i2pn2.org> <vrrpcl$11a56$4@dont-email.me> <8423998561d8feee807509b0ed6335123d35a7c9@i2pn2.org> <vrt3gv$264jb$4@dont-email.me> <448c82acff6b5fc1d2aa266be92df6f778ec2c6a@i2pn2.org> <vru5tp$38ob9$1@dont-email.me> <ac61f679d7ddb39b0ceaedd7f562899d36346535@i2pn2.org> <vrvccp$aq8m$3@dont-email.me> <e166831a8e02332d64ec151f61481e2629e6e53a@i2pn2.org> <vrvsh4$p4vd$2@dont-email.me> <c93030bbd81fb313c76c256c6e54beb48b07dfdd@i2pn2.org> <vs1vuv$2ot1m$1@dont-email.me> <d2f86fad6c5823e3c098f30d331576c52263b398@i2pn2.org> <vs2fgn$354gv$5@dont-email.me> <61f821b5a18046ab36ddb6c52a003b574cf34de6@i2pn2.org> <vs2hnm$38lvq$1@dont-email.me> <9be1ff2af6bbf405565b27bc8211adf9f353e9f2@i2pn2.org> <vs44b6$qjc3$1@dont-email.me> <3ff8345ef2ddb51594c67cf7f5cbb81f696afbc5@i2pn2.org> <vs4nlf$1c1ja$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 23:51:47 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2041611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vs4nlf$1c1ja$4@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3602 Lines: 38 On 3/27/25 7:40 PM, olcott wrote: > On 3/27/2025 4:56 PM, joes wrote: >> Am Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:10:46 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 3/27/2025 6:02 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 3/26/25 11:47 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 3/26/2025 10:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 3/26/25 11:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 8:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Non-Halting is that the machine won't reach its final staste even >>>>>>>> if an unbounded number of steps are emulated. Since HHH doesn't do >>>>>>>> that, it isn't showing non-halting. >>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH will never reach its final state in an >>>>>>> unbounded number of steps. >>>>>> But DDD emulated by an actually correct emulator will, >>>>> If you were not intentionally persisting in a lie you would >>>>> acknowledge the dead obvious that DDD emulated by HHH according to the >>>>> semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly correctly reach its >>>>> final halt state. > >> Yes, HHH is not a correct simulator. >> > > In other words you either disagree with the x86 language > or don't have a clue about it. > No, it is YOU who does, as you think the x86 language somewhere has a definition that the call to some address starts an x86 level emulator. It has no such thing, a call instruction only transfers execution to the subroutine called. Even at a meta-logic level of emulation, a call to an emulator only become equivalent to calling the program emulated if the emulator is actually a COMPLETE and correct emulator, no aborting allowed. Sorry, you are just proving that all your logic is based on FRAUD and lies.