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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 07:49:39 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <d128909f1359b48293dd1823d22d671435d5640c@i2pn2.org> References: <vptlfu$3st19$9@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:49:39 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2343039"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vptlfu$3st19$9@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2779 Lines: 39 On 2/28/25 7:47 PM, olcott wrote: > _DD() > [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local > [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD > [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) > [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax > [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 > [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f > [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d > [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] > [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp > [00002154] 5d pop ebp > [00002155] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] > > When we hypothesize that the code at machine address > 0000213c is an x86 emulator then we know that DD > remains stuck in recursive emulation and cannot possibly > reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. > > When we add the additional complexity that HHH also > aborts this sequence at some point then every level > of recursive emulation immediately stops. This does > not enable any DD to ever reach its "ret" instruction. > But then you just negated your first assumption, as a partial emulator that aborts its emulation, then DD no longer gets stuck. This has always been your problem, you don't understand the nature of Truth as requiring things be according to the rules of the system, but instead you beleive in a "Truth Fairy" that can just declare things true, even when they are not. This just shows that you are nothing but a pathetic pathological lying idiot that is totally ignorant of what he is talking about, but doesn't care, as he just naturally reckless disregards the truth.