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Path: not-for-mail From: tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX, Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:11:50 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-Id: <d2e9e2bd5972c59ec3cfaea0368430c8@www.novabbs.com> References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <9bc3264930082f0c676a0154f4a1fd76@www.novabbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="------------66effb74f3bc91.99140575" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2991109"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="ovbq/l84ala/wLhXSqScU9GOSIzjukMrxJB27Aq7eyg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$vOvZHPmEZ0z5iSg/XNrdM.SdPU6pJe3qeo3XBHHP4ePSXZ1R3p8BK X-Rslight-Posting-User: c1a997029c70f718720f72156b7d7f56416caf7c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------66effb74f3bc91.99140575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 23:33:10 +0000, rhertz wrote: > No more comments, except that the planes were going UP AND DOWN at each > segment, for thousands of Km. And those VERTICAL PATHS have to be > discounted, as they are NORMAL to the flight around the globe at an > "average latitude of 34°. Wrong on several counts: 1) The altitude contributes to the GR time dilation 2) SR time dilation depends on the aircraft speed along its up-and-down path, not merely on the aircraft's speed relative to the ground. (i.e. its "normal" speed, as you put it) Let us imagine a spaceship traveling up and down along the following path: t(s) x(ls) y(ls) 0 0.0 0 10 0.1 1 20 0.2 0 30 0.3 1 40 0.4 0 50 0.5 1 60 0.6 0 70 0.7 1 80 0.8 0 90 0.9 1 100 1.0 0 The spaceship's average flight speed will be 0.1005c, while its ground speed will be 0.01c. That makes a big difference in LT calculations. 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