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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Futures Where the US Ended Not With a Bang But a Whimper Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 09:07:10 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <d66a0klnjdbvngu1ktfi3uj1eocoeqoo7o@4ax.com> References: <vpi8p4$ncm$1@reader1.panix.com> <pan$f6bb$abb421c6$f0779c93$ac76d4c5@cpacker.org> <3rg70kt1aijd3khpkubp5jstfn1or9ql9v@4ax.com> <ovh70khb65ktrv1c7dmpgnaheg1552ugnr@4ax.com> <6PVMP.1467425$BrX.1023006@fx12.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:07:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56751586c98094faa8f8ccd5f7abfbb2"; logging-data="160674"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/0Fz9w4oGpR8+MBlusQOEQUIV4nEC+ktA=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qCAaotL8uhSYM63LacCJKJdwW20= On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 22:52:50 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: >Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: >>On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 08:43:08 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> >>wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 08:54:48 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer >>><mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote: >>>>> Sometimes empires just kind of fall apart over time--no catastrophe >>>>> required. >>>>>=3D20 >>>>> =3D >>https://reactormag.com/five-futures-where-the-us-ended-not-with-a-bang- >>>>but-a-whimper/ >>>> >>>>Anybody planning to write a story about the splintering of North >>>>America should note where the Canadian embassy is in Washington. >>>>It was relocated to the foot of Capitol Hill in 1989. >>> >>>In fairness Canada and the US have been "best buddies" pretty much >>>since 1815 - though no question our friend in the White House has >>>brought Canada-US relations to a 200 year low point in no more than >>>three months. >> >>Buckle up! 45 months to go! > >Or less, if congress does their constitutional duty, which >may not happen until after the midterms. Actually, I think we need the /Republicans/ in Congress to do it. With an assist from the Dems to convict in the Senate. And language in the "to convict" proposition that also bars him from public office, with no separate vote required. A separate vote would allow the Republicans to convict but not bar. Just to be sure no loopholes are left that might allow him to try again on the grounds that he didn't get to serve the full four years. This may seem unlikely, but it really is the only way to end the madness. Of course, we would also have to avoid falling to the madness of Bernie, his friends, and the various high-prestige schools that think supporting terrorists (verbally) and chanting anti-Semitic slogans (and, in some cases, taking physical action related to anti-Semitism) is something they should encourage. IOW, the only way out is for pretty much everyone to become sane again. We can survive a few crazies on each side, locking them up when they go beyond free speech to actually break laws. We can't lock up half the country. We need two Centrist parties, one slightly Right and one slightly Left. One wonders if "Whigs" and "Tories" are available as Party names. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"