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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Muon paradox Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:06:19 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <d6b9dd687bfe1c27ced89d9c3657a2f5@www.novabbs.com> References: <d74079263e98ec581c4ccbdab5c5fa65@www.novabbs.com> <vsh92t$3mltr$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2712680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$BowY5NBQxPoZab8Ic1vdh.bAsMk0MwoOK1n94thWyfZ49RlVIiGdq X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2516 Lines: 34 On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 17:56:05 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 31.03.2025 22:40, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >> Do muons move at a different velocity in the laboratory than in the >> atmosphere? >> >> "No, muons generally do not move at a different velocity in a laboratory >> setting compared to their velocity in the atmosphere; they both travel >> at speeds very close to the speed of light, typically around 99.8% of >> the speed of light" - Google search AI. >> >> Then why would they "time dilate" in the atmosphere? > > The speed of muons is v = ~ 0.999668⋅c through the atmosphere > which also is within the laboratory with open roof. > γ = 38.8. > > The mean proper lifetime of a muon is t₀ = 2.2 μs. > But measured in the Earth's rest frame the lifetime of the muon > is tₑ = 2.2e-6⋅γ s = 85.36 μs (time dilation!). > > Since muons are created at a height ~15 km, and the time for > a muon to reach the earth is t = 15e3/v = 5.005 s, > then the part of the muon flux that will reach the Earth is > N/N₀ = exp(-t/tₑ) = 0.556, so 55.6% of the muons would reach the > Earth. > > If the lifetime of the muons had been 2.2 μs, then the part of > the muon flux that will reach the Earth would be: > N/N₀ = exp(-t/t₀) = 1.32e-10. > So only 0.0000000132% of the muons would reach the Earth. > > Can toy guess which of them is closest to what is observed? It's easy to understand that the lifetime of the muons is longer and that time dilation is an illogical fiction divorced from physics.